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The thing about Dungeon World is that it's not even an RPG, it's just a set of prompts for the GM to mess with you. It's mother may I all the way down and the "move" system is literally the most player disempowering thing ever as the range and arbitrariness of failure states makes a mocker...

Look, I'd like to go in to how the apple stacking situation in your writeup is so abusable that your subsystem collapses into a black hole of bizarre asymmetric trades. but I can't. Just do it once, then. Instead of repeatedly doing the thing where: You are supposed to be so much better than everyo...

*a game cannot include rules for everything. FACT *since rules for everything don't exist, exceptions to those rules occur. FACT *when an exception occurs a ruling must be made by someone. FACT ergo... since you are going to have to make rulings anyway based on this, the rules are not that importan...

If it's a game you don't consider "functional" yet people manage to play with it anyway and some of them have fun it's (for you and you only) a "gaming making tool". There are apparently many groups that only want or need "game-making tools". Though I'm sure I'll be re...

derp Sweet Madokami in heaven why are you still posting? Isn't the hole you've dug for yourself deep enough already? Do you think that you'll reach china if you keep digging long enough? Let the thread die already >_< @dDM why are you still responding to Zak he is either trolling or incredibly stup...

Secondly... Is this thread still fucking going on? It seem so, honestly eyecancer aside I feel like this has been a very productive thread. Sure Zak never posted anything of value but the counter arguments against him were really good and can be repurposed for future debates. Which essentially mean...

I leave, I come back, and tags are still fucked, what the fuck. Anyway I'm out, I'm not responding to Zak anymore he is both retarded and arguing in bad faith. Also isn't leaving broken tags grounds for a ban.

mother fucker fix your fucking tags, how many times is this now

Zak S wrote:You're using "MTP" and "shitty rules" and "rulings" as synonyms.

No I'm not you moron. You're interrogating the text from the wrong perspective and like always that perspective is that of a retarded 10 year old.

Edit Zak unfuck your tags

Yes. You haven't described how this is bad. The bigger bribe gets the bigger bonus. The example assumes a target for whom an apple is a relevant gift. A horse or a beggar would be obvious candidates. Alright then the verdict is in, your system is indistinguishable from MTP only you've added a bunch...

It isn't. You never asked about the increments considered bonus-worthy so your entire comment is textbook "Rather than ask a clarifying question, I assumed bullshit and yelled about it" Zak this you However, the baseline of these bonuses would only include the differences between bonuses ...

Only if you stack higher than all benefits of all other interested parties If your system allows "apple stacking" where one minor favor gives +1 two minor favors gives +2 and those add linearly your system is fucktarded. Your solution only make your system even worse motherfucker because ...

No you didn't refute my argument you moron. In your system you can stack several minor favors to get the King to give you his castle and that's not acceptable. On the other hand when the Ser Shinyarmor the Paladin does a major favor to the king like rescue the princes he doesn't get jack shit becaus...

Edited for eyecancer Incorrect. To see the inaccuracies in this statement re-read: 1. my first comment to you after your response to my challenge, and 2.then follow my exchange concerning your and Frank's objections to the rule I invented. The very last objection to the rule itself was raised by Fra...

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The end goal of a game is to be fun. I don't see how rulings are ultimately a negative to that goal. Because rulings create inconsistency and bog down the game, this makes the game less fun. "I like my Aunt Lily so I sent her a birthday card. I don't see how that's a problem" "Aunts ...

Zak you formatting is so shitty you broke the page unfuck your tags Edit:Thank you, given that at least four different people have complained about your eyecancer can you now stop posting eyecancer. Nope. Rulings over rules makes resolution faster when the GM would have to look up some exotic rule i...

so you started a thread for the sole purpose of forcing people to agree with your playstyle? No I started this thread to gather better arguments against a particular school of game design thought. A school of thought that if allowed to proliferate will prevent games I would like to play from being ...

oh my god the eyecancer is spreading dDM could reformat that post or something so it has actual paragraphs >_<

I don't want to be a dick about it, but Zak you need to hit enter less. I do want to be a dick about it because Zak deserves it for filling this thread with eyecancer. Zak stop posting like a mentally retarded 10 year old everyone is sick of it. But possibly even more importantly, this thread is in...

Listen Zak, please stop doing this. There are these things called paragraphs, I'm pretty sure you know what they are, you like have a blog and stuff don't you. I say this out of love you see right now you are losing the argument regardless of what your posts contain. Because everyone else in this th...

Again: time spent with friends playing the game (and even spent talking rules--which is what you are doing as a leisure activity right now on the internet ) is time well spent. It's fun for many people. Some (not all) people like to spend a few seconds time in the game answering trivial rules quest...

] You have reduced yourself to a caricature against which people can test rhetorical blades for sharpness, because you certainly aren't worth anything by any other metric. Mission motherfukcing accomplished Some players would rather ask the GM these 20 questions than memorize the rulebook. You aren...

That's not how rulings-not-rules works. This is on PAGE ONE of the thread: you provide the means of adjudication before the player makes their final decision. That only makes sense if players actions happen in a vacuum, when I do things on my turn the things I'm going to want to do are going to dep...

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/061/690/wgoitt2.jpg guys while I have super respect for what you doing right now. It would be nice to see a little less arguing with the troll and a little more analysis of why the "rulings not rules" guys are so hard to argue with. The lin...