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That's not what Frank's talking about. Getting a free simple weapon proficiency, and 3 more class skills, doesn't let a fighter do anything out of combat. It still only has 2 skill points/level to use. Have you tried to play a diplomatic Strong or Tough hero, or a sneaky one? It sucks.

1082406813[/unixtime]]dimminutive creatures 1, and fine creatures zero (that is, any damage at all slays a fine creature).[br] [br][br]I agree, but got a question here. Why 0 hp? You'd have to have an exception to the normal disabled rules just for fine creatures. And for effects that do things lik...

1082156683[/unixtime]]And here is the spell for a wizard, which I've named lesser shapechange. I tried to grant it versatility without being tied to the monster manual at all. It should be able to simulate most of your favorite creatures, at least the favorite creatures that a 4th level spell shoul...

1082147517[/unixtime]] Assuming your combat and non-combat types are accurate, why couldn't you also be a warrior/warrior and just fight? [br][br]For the same reason you can't just be a Half-Orc Twice instead of taking a character class. I don't really see how "You get to pick one combat class...

Assuming your combat and non-combat types are accurate, why couldn't you also be a warrior/warrior and just fight?

I'm starting this thread to discuss Polymorph as a fixed-form spell b/c the other thread has too many options to keep straight.[br][br]Here's a framework. [br][br]A. Polymorph applies the size change templates from the MM. Increasing in size applies the size increases, decreasing in size applies the...

Keith, I can't for the life of me figure your system out, or I'd comment. I really don't get it.

1082042673[/unixtime]]Therefore, since you should be able to carry 8 times as much stuff when you grow one level (since the same relative stuff would weigh 8 times as much) - you should gain +5 strength twice . Or rather, that every size increase should come with +10 strength just to keep standing ...

1081998520[/unixtime]]I don't even understand this. Heavy Warhorses and Unicorns can't keep up with Paladins in close combat. And if a wizard is just one spell away from fighting on an even footing with the paladin (and can get all those neat divinations, summons, and teleports the rest of the time...

I don't think that's true. You'd sure as hell know the difference between a Manticore w/ str 14 and str 25. You'd know the first time you tried to pick something up.[br][br]Giants, Dragons, Magical Beasts, etc. are pretty iconic. People know Giants are strong. But if Polymorph, The Stat Package, jus...

1081974341[/unixtime]]This kind of thing doesn't even come close to working.[br][br]It means that a single spell is gripping your entire campaign by the balls - demanding that you use and not use monsters over the course of the entire campaign because of one spell. [br][br]But there's different vie...

That's interesting. You couldn't use straight caster caster level, which can be wildly broken. You could tie it to Druid level, and allow certain stacking w/ other classes. That's one of the methods I go through up above.[br][br]I think we're already just using iterative attacks, but why wouldn't TW...

Well, OK. Eliminate Pounce. This isn't the Pounce Gripe Thread. [br][br]But the system still needs to divvy up abilities some rational way. I don't think you can eliminate abilities altogether. It's fun to be able to change into a snake and grapple, then constrict, a caster. It's fun to change into ...

It depends on how you do it.[br][br]Here's an example. Currently, at 8th level a druid can wildshape into a dire lion. That's cool, and not too many people have problems with that shape (except for the general brokenness of stat replacement you go on and on and on about and don't need to repeat).[br...

Basically, you'd get a stat package that in the MM is called "Dire Tiger," but for wild shape would be, say, "11th level form." The flavor is whatever you want it to be, tiger, wolf, bear, dolphin. I see this as something like the monk's level advancement table. It seems easy eno...

I'm coming around to the Frank view myself. Big concern, though, is that the spell description gets pretty long. THere's a basic rule of legislation drafting (which should apply here) that the longer the rule, the bigger the loopholes. Just something to keep in mind.

1081627411[/unixtime]] The current system weights LA heavily at the beginning, then it has less of an effect w/ class level advancement [br][br]This isn't even close to true.[br][br]The concept is that 2 levels equals approximately double the power. Level Allowance charges you a static amount of le...

If you remove monster descriptions from providing the basic powers of polymorph, your left w/ stats. The spell might be something like, for example, you can increase or decrease:[br][br]physical attributes up to caster level/2;[br]natural armor up to caster level/2;[br]size up to caster level/4;[br]...

ACtually, scaling is the opposite of the current system. The current system weights LA heavily at the beginning, then it has less of an effect w/ class level advancement (except caster level issues, which just suck).[br][br]Making LA races a class is going to have the same problem as any other syste...

OK, so what happens here? A Drow wizard (LA +3) in this system is a first level PC that gets exp as a 3rd level PC. For a 3rd level PC it doesn't matter much, but at ECL 4 (once it gets to 2nd level), per the charts the drow already gets, what, say on average 2/3 what the other now-2nd level level P...

If it's not based on monster descriptions, it's just a stat-buffing spell, with some ancillary abilities thrown in. Changing shape is just fluff that goes along with stat changes. Nothing wrong with that, but if that's what you're going to do, why have polymorph at all?[br][br]And the problems of ba...

Of course it requires re-writing every monster in the book. But there's not a whole lot of alternative. Polymorph has several technical problems:[br][br]1. What sizes?[br]2. Templates?[br]3. Type change?[br]4. Attack methods?[br]5. Qualities you get/lose?[br]6. Wonky attribute changes?[br][br]You ca...

If you mean LA instead of ECL, does (a) mean a starting Ogre PC would be a level4 giant, considered 6th level for exp? For (b), would an ogre be a 4th level PC that got -10% xp?[br][br]How exactly is (a) less harsh from the current rules? A Drow F1 =does gain exp. as a 3rd level PC. It would just de...

Forgotten Realms.

I don't think that's true. The spells changed dramatically from 2E to 3.0. Expecting a change in 3.5 was too much, b/c the spells are too wonky to fix w/in the 3.0 system, and too important a concept to throw away. So, they left it alone in 3.5 (basically).[br][br]IMO, the real problem w/ the spells...