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The wicker armour was a bit of a stretch, but some descriptive text should rectify your concerns. Mostly, this was due to the armour scaling to Jump, the intent of which none of us could quite follow in any way except this one. As for the mithril shirt ability, would DR 10/bludgeoning and piercing b...

Credit must go to veekie for helping me with this project, as well as ubernoob for some ideas. Tome Armours Chain Shirt AC +4, Max Dex +5, ACP -2, ASF -4 A mass of links covering your chest, neck and shoulders made of the finest steel. BAB +1: You are encased in steel and negate the first 5 points o...

zeruslord wrote:Benediction looks really interesting, but you need to define what a benediction is. I assume it is using the first ability, but is time changed for the upper level abilities?

I assumed it was a curator ability being referenced there.

Elennsar wrote:Unarmed strike with the offhand.

Lol, nicely spotted.

Roy wrote:

Absentminded_Wizard wrote:

You pick "Tron Paladin" or whatever and then all the choices are...made for you.

Do I smell the design philosophy of 5e already?

Sadly yes.

Plus fucking one.

Roy wrote:Except that he is now.

What the shit is the world coming to, honestly? First 4E, now this...

Roy wrote:Yup, 4.0 sucks. And Khan has been pulling Fighter BS. I don't recall him being a Sundertard though.

Indeed, Khan has never been a Sundertard. But that isn't saying much.

schpeelah wrote:Great, but I don't think it should be possible to combine the Duelist flurry attack with Two Weapon Fighting. You might want to specify that.

How do you TWF with a one-handed weapon and keep one hand empty again?

What Nonsince! ...Hey, maybe that'll get some memetic traction. Don't forget about Khan the Destroyer, though, guys. That guy's starting to show off a lot of fail himself. The infamous creator of pun-pun descending into fail now?! What's becoming of all these forums I used to enjoy frequenting? ......

Well, for a start, a rogue multiclassing into wizard is a very big newbie trap, since your abilities that you get from feats do precisely 0. Trying to make a warlock into a striker will also fail, since they actually aren't. Trying to make a paladin into a defender will also fail, since they actuall...

The only main difference is that 4E lacks the newbie traps that 3E had for the most part. While there are a few crazy over the top abilities in 4E, It just doesn't have the massive suck that 3E had. 3E was laden with pitfalls everywhere you went. Thus 4E's randomly generated character is much bette...

RandomCasualty2 wrote:This debate seems like the age old 4E problem. You can balance the game, but it still doesn't mean its going to be fun to play.

4E is NOT balanced. It is many things, but this isn't one of them.

According to the 4e devs, that's good game design. If everything sucks equally, it's all on the same power level. Therefore, it's balanced. Therefore, it's good. Except they can't even get that right - look at the divine oracle if you don't believe me. People call it the 'divine whoracle' for a rea...

Parts of 4E combat need to be sped up. Killing minions is however, not one of those parts. While normal 4E combat is excruciatingly slow. Minion combat is on the other hand, too fast. They're actually fine at low levels, when your abilities aren't going to take them all out at once. But at high lev...

Getting power characters is pretty much the same. Like 3E there's a few uber abilities out there that are really abuseable and make everything else look like shit. So you take orb of imposition or battlerager and go with it. It seems your perception of it is just different because you can't nuke ev...

Not really no. Because minions are still work 1/4 of the XP a real monster. So if you kill 4 minions, that's like killing one full monster. They're already painfully easy to take down as well. The game doesn't need more ways to kill them even faster. In fact, the game needs more ways of keeping min...

Why is that? Does it state you have to target the nearest enemy or something? And what would the Purifying Fiery Tiefling Cleric do? I could read these, but it's not worth opening the pdf for, 4E is that bad. Both curse and quarry specify 'a creature', which, according to 4E, is an ally and an enem...

Overall though 4E is really simple. There isn't nearly as much dumpster diving required because there just aren't as many choices. A 3.5 wizard had to select a whole spellbook full of crap, where as the 4E character is really limited to only 2 at will powers, 4 encounter powers, 4 daily powers and ...

Very nice, sir, very nice.

On Rending Claws and Farspawn Tentacles, your scale does not correspond with the one you described. Otherwise, awesome!

Once you understand that the key to 4E is preventing your opponents from acting and killing them as quickly as possible, it's not hard sorting through the useless powers and magic items. I don't see how dumpster diving is more complex in 4E than in 3.5 or that ignoring fluff and ignoring the way th...

The claim that 4E is simpler is daft. It's more complex, because in order to not suck, you need high degrees of dumpster-diving and a totally counter-intuitive approach to the system, to say nothing of disregarding half-to-all the fluff.

Anyone claiming 4E is simpler is a retard.

That, and the fact that the warlock is not a striker, but a controller.

Lol, so even WotC are beginning to realise the roles are bullshit? Wow, and I thought they never learned.....

Bigode wrote: My favorite of what little I read:

Some idiot on EN World wrote:Astral terror does a measly 1d6+wis, but it's a close burst 3 - that's going to hit most people on the battlefield, (...)

So... 4E is meant to be played in a closet? Or something the size of my Japanese apartment?