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Check the earlier ones. Of course the later ones are slightly more elaborate 'See aboves' as he is too stupid to grasp the more intricate points Yeah, "intricate points" indeed, where instead of arguing you throw in content-less posts where you "smite" people. Do you expect the ...

Healing surges: I have no idea what this supposed these are supposed to represent in the real world. You try describing the idea of "I can heal very quickly once per combat or every five minutes thereafter, but I can only do this a certain amount if times per day dependent upon my job." a...

Now, I'm not saying that the outcome has to be 50/50--it could be 5/95 or 70/30 or whatever. It's just that if there is any chance of the king kicking the goblin out or listening to his words or even imprisoning the goblin it needs to actually be a chance. Otherwise it's railroading, because the ou...

Once again, you have a fast-talking, charismatic goblin bard and a really racist elven king. Who gets their way in such a situation? But why would you leave this to the chance of dice instead? Does it make any more sense to make success random? This actually IS a case where DM railroading, even if ...

See, that's my problem with this whole new 'just roleplay' it crap. It is actually important to know whether or not you can lead your party through a sandstorm or whether you just end up up lost. It is actually important whether to know that you imress the lord and you get his help or you get kicke...

The point is that some measure of roleplaying should exist within the rules to create consistency among the player base. As 4e (supposedly) doesn't want to render characters mechanically useless and over-reward system mastery, so too should it seek to give equal voice to all the players at the tabl...

You are an asinine fool who makes arguments with logical holes a child could see. You construct strawmen and shift goal-posts with energy and passion whenever you might have to answer to something that would pin you to a position. You have recently degraded to simply making snarky complaints and ac...

to be fair, the thread went down the shitter a couple of pages ago, where the contentious DAMAGE PER ROUND VERSUS DPS debate went down

also circlejerking itt

-NoobCrusher

Idiot. Magical Tea Party, just like the game played by 5 year old girls doesn't have any rules, and doesn't have anything to do with anything. It's just making up random crap without any rhyme or reason. It accurately describes anything outside the rules of the game... like roleplaying. Whoa, hold ...

You have to be fucking kidding me. You presented a bonus to the DC of a d20 roll as being fundamentally different - enough to justify the creation of an entirely different role from a penalty to the exact same d20 roll. So in other words you failed to read my post correctly. Nice. That is totally r...

Words have meaning. When people use words consistently to mean a specific thing, fighting against it doesn't make any sense. yeah, and DPS means Damage Per Second. Seriously, what are you trying to accomplish by not using the DPS nomenclature? It's a word. It means "damage per unit time,"...

It's nice you've had good Magical Tea Party sessions. However, this is completely fucking irrelevant to 4.Fail. Cease your obfuscation at once. The moment you cease ignoring the edition, and actually fucking play it, you realize just what a soul sucker it is. Kinda like a mentally teenage girl. As ...

Because inherently, by definition when used in reference to the entire edition means exactly that. The entire edition is inherently anti conducive to roleplay. It is by no means setting specific. In any case, having to fix critical design flaws by doing it yourself eliminates any and all reason to ...

No. Because DPR means "Dick to Pussy Resuscitation" and when you say it you sound like a god damned moron. You're like one of those stupid fucking teabagger protesters. Even if someone agrees with your basic message, they have to admit that you're as retarded appearing as a man making a l...

Shut your fucking face, unclefucker. This kind of passive-aggressive crap may slip past the filters on other boards, but around here we recognize it for what it is: cowardly. If you want to insult people, at least have the courage to do so honestly. It not like you're using your real name or face. ...

Also, I'm not getting where some of you are calling 4e inherently unimmersive. If you don't like the flavor of the setting, that's totally understandable. There are better ones. Some people are able to improvise to make the setting more interesting to them and their group. What gets me the most is t...

Congratulations. You have proven to everyone's satisfaction that you are dumber then a box of rocks. You can now stop trying to be as intentionally stupid as possible. If you're measuring the average amount of damage a PC is capable of doing in 4th Edition D&D, why would you call it DPS? You're...

I'm not sure you can actually tell the difference between those things: For example, consider the dodge feat in 3rd edition. If it was "One opponent gets -1 to hit" instead of "get +1 AC against one enemy" are those things different? Obviously the two cases in your example are t...

Remember to make sure your definition includes laser clerics and tactical warlords, but excludes druids and paladins. Really? I don't think you're reading my posts. I already said that the paladin has leader-like qualities. I again say that you're too fixated on compartmentalization. Swordmages hav...

A Paladin is a melee combatant who can heal and grant temp hp. He can redirect enemy damage by Challenges and by directly taking damage for his allies. An Inspiring Warlord is a melee combatant who can heal and grant temporary HP. He can direct enemy damage where he wants through repositioning his ...

I'm not saying that defenders are leader/striker hybrids. The paladin in particular might be viewed as a defender/leader hybrid, with defender being defined as a balanced attacker and meatshield. They may not always be able to force opponents into attacking them, but they're inherently more resilien...

There is no +CHA +WIS race, so 18/16 stats aren't possible post-mods either. Half elf. Start with 16/16 Charisma and Wisdom. The +2 Charisma bumps it to 18. I'm talking point buy, not stat array. Damage-dealing? I can't be bothered to demonstrate it at the moment, but a cleric can easily keep up. N...

So it looks like in terms of straight "defending" ability, the cleric wins out if built correctly. However I think there's another way to look at how "defender" should be interpreted. I'll elaborate. Obviously if we use the definition of defender to be somebody who discourages at...

"Defender" Cleric Build: Note that while this is playable it's not even particularly optimal, I just wanted to fill it up with "defender" powers. We're also playing this game how ti was "meant" to be played, with the 16, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10 lineup. Dwarf Cleric of Ilmat...

Why does Noob' get to assume that fire will always focus on the person who can do nothing but take hits? Smear the queer means that enemies concentrate on one person, if you have a Paladin and a Cleric, that is the Cleric. That's what I'm saying. According to everyone's logic here defenders are use...