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Yes, the encounters per day can seem a tad strange when you try and put it into an everyday context. However, your everyday does not represent what advenutrers are doing. Compare the pacing to a movie though. A lot of horror movies take place over a single night. Look at district 9, it has exactly 1...

So I can see K's point when he says it is basically a new game. 2nd to 3rd changes rules and statblocks and converting was a pain in the ass. But 3rd to 4th changes the entire game. Statblocks, rules, spells, world, everything. I signiifcantly disagree with this. 2e's problem was that it didn't hav...

Honestly, RPGA and "impersonal" roleplaying events seem to me to be a big part of the reason for the numerous "don't be a dick" rules 4e instigated. Even going all the way back to AD&D 2e when I started seening rpga type events they usually included some things that were awkw...

Yeah it really is. The main problem is that there's no happy medium at all between walls crumbling to dust with a few swings and walls being totally resistant to your attacks. Nor are there even any guidelines as to what objects should be attackable and what shouldn't be. At what level can characte...

No, The problems you are talking about here have existed in all versions of D&D. The real issue is that D&D going all the way back to chainmail + houserules the game is a COMBAT simulator. Its abstractions are based around a combat centric view. You are now looking at what in reality are var...

So, basically, your eyes simply cannot see the word 'mathematically'? Or is it your brain cannot process the concept? There is no context to otherwise tell me you mean statistically as compared to arithmatically. However, your complaint that healing is too good is also affected by your large party....

Frank, If there is any single meaningful event or encounter of any sort before your POD party gets to the dungeon then on the players side of the screen they might as well live in a POL world. If your POL party does NOT have any single meaningful evet or encounter of any some sort before they arrive...

So you're allowed to use encounter powers outside of encounters except in any situation where doing so is actually useful? What the hell? As I understood it and as Lago points out later the text condems the use of encounter powers outside of combat for achieving maximum mechanical benefit. To do so...

Doom3114 I have seen none of the effects you are talking about. I do agree that if the players bring more healing then encounters can be easier but the hard limit on number of surges per day means that the total healing they get is pretty limited. I don't see how your characters in the 8-9-10 range ...

Frank is sort of right. If you are not talking about what the book says then using the term "points of light" at all is silly. Its an idea about how to build the fluff for your campaign. Honestly, I sort of wonder if the reason for using it was because they didn't want to pay Mr. Gygax's e...

Souran, the main problem with adapting Dark Sun to 4e is the designer mindset of "nothing should exist that might be considered remotely not fun." If you're denying classes equipment, you're denying the fighter his gear, and that is Not Fun. If the wizard has higher AC than the defender, ...

So right off the bat, this idea is incompatible with the “points of light” model of 4E. Um, why? Everything I remember about dark sun is the iconic points of light campaign. Everywhere sucks except a few tiny areas where people can strach out a life. It may be points of dimness but it still fits th...

Yes, high level DnD4.0 rules don't make any sense in a Dark Sun-type world. So, no end game. How so. The high end dark sun campaign would be about stopping or doing the very things that the various sorceror kings actually did. Wipe out entire races, become try and become a diety, these sound like e...

That's like making a rule that you roll damage 100 times and take the average. You might as well just take average. Rolls that exist for basically no reason are fucking retarded. Your whole arguement falls in on itself. The point of the starvation rules is not to make players roll dice until they d...

Titanium Dragon,

You are welcome at my gamming table anytime!

However, for how well that was put, I think you may have wasted your time because you are about to be the target of a wall of flames.

No. In 3e the DCs are fixed, and as you go up in level your bonuses increase. This allows you to get stuff done at higher levels that you were not able to do at lower levels. In an explicit and world effecting manner. DCs are not fixed except for the small number of tasks identified in the skill it...

Well, we were talking about the ability in terms of Necromunda, where in the downtime phase you are allowed to roll for the availability of rare items for purchase. The black market connections allow you to roll an extra die and then drop the lowest to see if a particular item is available. It's si...

Points of Light is designed for campaign worlds like red hand of doom or return to the temple of elemental evil. A few small towns on the wilderness. Bounded by harsh terrain. No easy access to what remants of easy comfort civilizations might still exist. The players might travel to the astral see b...

Actually I think that if two characters put the same resources into a skill they should be equally good at it. I don't mind wizards being able to climb a rope, why should I mind the rogue being able to recognize a spell? Why do you want rogues to be able to learn the laws of magic (all skills avail...

Parthenon - Do you read Jim Butcher? The Fury's series maybe? The idea for rituals is a solid concept. The problem is that they use money. Most of the things you can do with rituals shouldn't cost money because the effect isn't as useful or permanent enough to be worth the value. Paying to learn a r...

Arcana is training in magic. If we traded Arcana with physics and thief became con-man and wizard became scientist then I don't think you would argue that the scientist should be better at science than his con-man collegue. Even if in all other aspects they are the same. The wizard player shouldn't ...

And PoL means no Empire. Since when? An empire would be a point of light. The size of the invidual point of light is irrelevant. Also, why couldn't the story about two trading houses happen in any point of light? POL still has large cities. Kingdoms, and yes even Empires. In POL one of the things t...

What about the you know germans living in the black forest. It was still immenslly dangerous for them. Also, for how large the roman empire was it basically was a single point of light surrounded by a lot of darkness from the Roman perspective. Additionally, even the roman interior was not free of b...

Look, I can do the math. It would be game breaking as the skill rules work right now. No I have not used it. I don't have house rules written up for this, I don't have playtest solutions for the combinations that break from this work. The point of the thread is how should skills work. I am just offe...

Please explain how POL limits advenuters? Please explain how POD makes all adventures cool and epic? Provide 2 concrete examples. Explain why the adventures can't flip settings? What makes good campaign worlds is good storywritting and dming. What makes bad campaigns is lazy dming and hack storywrit...