Do we come here because every other forum is a wasteland?

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:57 am

I come here because people praise me all the time.

Oh, and to read vitriol-fueled rants about why ___ doesn't work/is shite.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:16 am

I also like how in this thread about TGD-wanking someone makes a random attack against ubernoob.

That totally doesn't reinforce my point about TGD's quality mostly being in peoples' heads.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:20 am

Lago PARANOIA wrote:That totally doesn't reinforce my point about TGD's quality mostly being in peoples' heads.

Do you mean because the person making a random attack is being an asshole, or because you think uber is a loser?

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:05 am

Because if this place was as awesome and cool as people say then we wouldn't have people feel so inclined to randomly call people out on the 'TGD Hugbox time!' thread. Regardless of whether the people being called out are an asshole or not.

Dean · Post by **Dean** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:41 am

I actually feel that those things can coexist perfectly. See I don't think this is a NICE forum, I wasn't saying that this is the forum I prefer because it is friendly and makes me feel good about myself and when I've had a bad day I can jump into the "den" and be told gently, but reassuringly that everything will be ok and that I'm special just as I really am.

Fucking no, my friends. We ARE a bunch of egotistical assholes. You guys are assholes. I am an asshole. Some of you may not be. Good for you.

But we are INTELLIGENT assholes. And I am apparently TOTALLY WILLING to listen to people tell me that an idea I've posted is shit pooped from a butt covered in yet another persons poop if that means that I can still know they will follow that statement with an intelligent assessment of why that is true.

This isn't a nice place, it's a smart place, and I like that.

For Valor · Post by **For Valor** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:49 am

deanruel87... please never repeat paragraph 3 of that latest post.

I'm crying.

Mask_De_H · Post by **Mask_De_H** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:52 am

I come here to nuthug Frank/K/Koumei(although she doesn't have nuts to hug)

Mainly, I come here for someone coming up with crazy ideas and because telling someone to go fuck themselves anywhere other than /tg/ ist verboten.

Also, for simple and clever optimization from people who've done it so long that it's passe.

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:31 am

Many of the ideas discussed here make me look at gaming in different ways. New ideas can only help me in my gaming hobby.

That and I can call someone a fuckwad without the entire board stopping collectively and trying to shame me for saying a swear word instead of wondering why I called someone a fuckwad.

Silent Wayfarer · Post by **Silent Wayfarer** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:40 am

I'm here because RPGNet mods are retarded Nazis and the people here, while their views may not align totally with mine, at least take the time to present their case in a manner that is coherent and logical.

Also, I enjoy the inventive castigation that crops up around here.

Roy · Post by **Roy** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:01 pm

FrankTrollman wrote:Meg was WizO Autumn. She was the WizO in charge of coming up with inane scout jamborees for people on the 3.5 Character Optimization board. She massaged peoples' egos there by moderating in favor of the insular groupthink of that board.

When WotC went to 4e, she was canned. Her years of producing 3.5 min/max groupthink were no longer in demand as the new regime wanted 4e groupthink up and running and her "virtual cupcakes for people who support the regime" and "tacit approval of lone wolves who lambaste enemies of the status quo" simply wasn't producing a 4e-friendly environment fast enough.

And a lot of the WotC loyalists felt really betrayed, because they'd been circle singing and wagon circling for 3.5 for five years, and their whole board was simply uprooted an cast to the wind. And a couple hundred of them stalked off to make their own board and show the people at WotC something or other.

I haven't read their board in some time. How did that work out? Good?

-Username17

They had an ok forum for a while. Then Meg decided that she really didn't want a place for open and honest discussion (even if being honest meant telling them to suck a barrel of cocks). She wanted her little podcast thing. And apparently people being mean on the internet about unrelated subjects were costing her listeners. Even though the podcast people rarely if ever actually posted in the rest of the forum, and very few of the optimization people gave a damn about her podcast.

This caused a number of things to happen, one of which was me being banned.

Much later a bunch of people kept bringing up BG so I checked it out again. I apparently got unbanned (and perhaps have been for a very long time but never cared to check) but when I took a look around I found nothing but fail.

People that were paragons of optimization before are now advocating shit like low magic fighters being totally viable and a valid character. It's like when Treantmonk went from the God Wizard guy to sucking a barrel of 4.Fail cocks, and when the Pun Pun guy went from well... making Pun Pun, to advocating sword and board Fighters along with Aelryinth.

There managed to not be a SINGLE intelligent post relevant to my interests. At all. Even the Paizils have the occasional smart person they haven't gotten around to evicting yet.

So it might have worked if they stayed their course. But instead it failed, because Meg is fucking fickle as hell.

A Man In Black · Post by **A Man In Black** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:43 pm

I come here because my heart is twisted and black and filled with hate, which suits this forum well. Also, less tentacle porn than /tg/.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:52 pm

Lago PARANOIA wrote:I also like how in this thread about TGD-wanking someone makes a random attack against ubernoob.

That totally doesn't reinforce my point about TGD's quality mostly being in peoples' heads.

Yeah, I'm with you there. A lot of good stuff comes out of this board, and a lot of good stuff will continue to come from this board. A lot of good stuff has come out of BG and probably still will. The only reason I'm here and not on BG is because the admin here doesn't actively encourage people to harass me about the mature forums being closed. fbmf isn't my minion and won't follow my commands, but I can at least expect a fair chance to make my case, even if I don't convince him. That's way more than you could ever expect from "Meg" or Rich Burlew (of Giant In The Playground).

Count Arioch the 28th · Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:59 pm

Roy wrote:
So it might have worked if they stayed their course. But instead it failed, because Meg is fucking fickle as hell.

She's not fickle per se. She is a supremely insecure and needy person that needs constant reassuring to get through her day. Although this might not come across correctly in my postings about her, she's not an object of hate, you have to kind of pity her.

I feel bad for her. I wonder what life events happened to make her like that. Not that she'd ever tell me, mind you. Told her how it was too many times for that.

Nicklance · Post by **Nicklance** » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:48 pm

I'm here to observe how you guys lay down the burn and hopefully get blooded. As for 3.5 related stuff, Tome is so far one of the more coherent and consistent systems that I've come to enjoy.

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:16 am

To be honest, I'm not really sure why I come here anymore.

Maybe that means I should stop.

For Valor · Post by **For Valor** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:58 am

Surgo wrote:To be honest, I'm not really sure why I come here anymore.

Maybe that means I should stop.

You have attained a higher level of thinking, Surgo. Congratulations on your ascension. Hell, here comes Siddartha now...

In other news, please stay. Your input is much appreciated.

cthulhu · Post by **cthulhu** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:15 am

Lago PARANOIA wrote:Because if this place was as awesome and cool as people say then we wouldn't have people feel so inclined to randomly call people out on the 'TGD Hugbox time!' thread. Regardless of whether the people being called out are an asshole or not.

Biggest problem with the forum. Some people react like the target of their abuse personally burnt their house down.

Really weird.

Wesley Street · Post by **Wesley Street** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:18 pm

Do we come here because every other forum is a wasteland?

I'm here because, like most other forums I visit on a regular basis, it's relatively self-moderating. And when two egotistical intellectuals get into a fight over the proper application of some sort of game mechanic it's always entertaining reading.

I comment to a few blogs but other game boards that I've spent a significant amount of time on tend to be filled with whiners, sycophants, or people who failed English Comp.

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:51 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:
Roy wrote:
So it might have worked if they stayed their course. But instead it failed, because Meg is fucking fickle as hell.
She's not fickle per se. She is a supremely insecure and needy person that needs constant reassuring to get through her day. Although this might not come across correctly in my postings about her, she's not an object of hate, you have to kind of pity her.

I feel bad for her. I wonder what life events happened to make her like that. Not that she'd ever tell me, mind you. Told her how it was too many times for that.

Her dad was really sick when WoTC decided to can the Optimization Boards. And they decided to have Gamer_Zero tell her the news.

And Gamer_Zero was like, the biggest asshole in the history of the WoTC boards. Everything he touched created an angry mob. If the term "Exceedingly Bad Forum Admin" ever makes it to a dictionary, Mike Lescault would have his picture right beside the entry.

Compared to some of the other insane needy people I know though, Meg's fine. Gameologist ended up exceedingly boring though as it lacked a particular schtick to run with.

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:53 pm

Oh, and regarding the OP's original question: This board has people who can actually do the fucking math.

Roy · Post by **Roy** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:31 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:
Roy wrote:
So it might have worked if they stayed their course. But instead it failed, because Meg is fucking fickle as hell.
She's not fickle per se. She is a supremely insecure and needy person that needs constant reassuring to get through her day. Although this might not come across correctly in my postings about her, she's not an object of hate, you have to kind of pity her.

I feel bad for her. I wonder what life events happened to make her like that. Not that she'd ever tell me, mind you. Told her how it was too many times for that.

She's both. One follows the other. As such she is naught but a puppet of others.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:45 pm

Roy wrote:They had an ok forum for a while. Then Meg decided that she really didn't want a place for open and honest discussion (even if being honest meant telling them to suck a barrel of cocks). She wanted her little podcast thing. And apparently people being mean on the internet about unrelated subjects were costing her listeners. Even though the podcast people rarely if ever actually posted in the rest of the forum, and very few of the optimization people gave a damn about her podcast.

Yeah, there was a pretty dramatic shift when it went from being "339 where you can say what you want" to "play nice now except for arbitrary exceptions where podcast listeners get preference".

They drove a lot of people away, and I think others converted to 4E.

I learned basically never to engage Meg or Josh in direct conversation (particularly Josh). Although, none of them have posted there in months, so I don't know what that is all about. I know they had a kid, so maybe RL considerations took priority.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:35 pm

Zinegata wrote:
Her dad was really sick when WoTC decided to can the Optimization Boards. And they decided to have Gamer_Zero tell her the news.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that was particularly shitty. She was like that before that episode though.

RiotGearEpsilon · Post by **RiotGearEpsilon** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:46 pm

I only read the articles >.>

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:25 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:
Zinegata wrote:
Her dad was really sick when WoTC decided to can the Optimization Boards. And they decided to have Gamer_Zero tell her the news.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that was particularly shitty. She was like that before that episode though.

I only really knew her from that episode, and I didn't really sense any of this from her. The WiZos all seemed real sane to me, personally, albeit the one I liked the most was the late great Autumn.

Gamer_Zero had... pretty major issues with me. Largely because I kept calling him out on his real dumb moves. The other WoTC face seemed to like me though as I kept pointing out she was the competent one who cleaned up Gamer_Zero's disasters.

Again though, Mel's pretty sane compared to other people I know. Including people here in the Den.