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That is AWESOME.
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Crissa wrote:Matrix had a stupid plot

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Again, human batteries.
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T0Z wrote:Again, human batteries.
I am so with you. Maybe if the machines required input that only humans could provide - like a certain thought wave or something - but not as it was.

Doesn't mean I didn't like the movie, though.
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TOZ wrote:Again, human batteries.
What's so bad about that?
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Psychic Robot wrote:
TOZ wrote:Again, human batteries.
What's so bad about that?
Explain to me what power source the humans used, and then why the machines need human batteries.

Edit: I also enjoyed the movie, but the world doesn't really hold up.

Edit2: Now with links to pictures!
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The humans weren't batteries; they were actually providing most of the processing power for both the 90's simulation and the machines themselves. The 'energy' story was just smokescreen in an attempt to keep human from going Neo (i.e. taking control of the programs being run in their own brains) once they escaped into Zion (which was, BTW, just another simulation designed to please those who couldn't accept how pleasant the 90's were).
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Interesting interpretation. Is it official?
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Yes, Movie 3 explained that most of what those in Zion believed was a smokescreen.

However, the historical segments still say they replaced solar power with biological, including the humans. Of course, they never explain how that works, other than the machine faction actually used the independent operating robots as mooks, which really means the hive mind was totally willing to let some portion of itself die off to change its democratic numbers.

Anyhow, 'human batteries' is like the least of the things I dislike about Matrix.

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Wait, that's what the Architect program meant? That Zion was a second Matrix simulation? I guess I should have paid more attention.
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He wasn't specific. Just that Zion was a ruse as well. If it was in the 'real world' or not, he didn't say. Zion was apparently on its nth version as well, almost as many as the Matrix itself. They'd gotten it into an equilibrium where Zion would 'collect' dissidents, and the machines would dig it out and relaunch the Matrix.

Apparently the problem with the Smiths was known, too, just not to the Smith programs.

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I don't recall this. It sounds like a huge clusterfuck of retcon and fail.
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According to Cracked.com, the "Zion is another matrix" isn't an official stance, it's a can-made retcon. One that makes the third movie make a lot more sense, but a fan ret-con nonetheless.
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TOZ wrote:Interesting interpretation. Is it official?
It's official in that I say it's official.
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Maj wrote:
T0Z wrote:Again, human batteries.
I am so with you. Maybe if the machines required input that only humans could provide - like a certain thought wave or something - but not as it was.

Doesn't mean I didn't like the movie, though.
According to TVTropes (I have no idea what their source is), the original intent was to have the humans be used a processors, but the executives thought that would be too complicated, so the more simple battery explanation was used instead. I have no idea if this is true or not.

Also, the whole "you get less energy out of a system than you put in" part was hand waved away by explaining that the process was "combined with a form of fusion". I guess they hoped people wouldn't ask any more questions than that.
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CatharzGodfoot wrote:
TOZ wrote:Interesting interpretation. Is it official?
It's official in that I say it's official.
Acknowledged. I think I prefer that explanation better myself. Just like how it was actually wookies that took out the shield generator after dismantling C3PO as a false idol.
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RobbyPants wrote:Also, the whole "you get less energy out of a system than you put in" part was hand waved away by explaining that the process was "combined with a form of fusion". I guess they hoped people wouldn't ask any more questions than that.
I've said this before, but that's like powering your car with a hamster wheel 'combined with a form of internal combustion engine.'
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angelfromanotherpin wrote:
RobbyPants wrote:Also, the whole "you get less energy out of a system than you put in" part was hand waved away by explaining that the process was "combined with a form of fusion". I guess they hoped people wouldn't ask any more questions than that.
I've said this before, but that's like powering your car with a hamster wheel 'combined with a form of internal combustion engine.'
:rofl:

I'm surprised we don't see more advertisement like this!

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RobbyPants wrote:
angelfromanotherpin wrote:
RobbyPants wrote:Also, the whole "you get less energy out of a system than you put in" part was hand waved away by explaining that the process was "combined with a form of fusion". I guess they hoped people wouldn't ask any more questions than that.
I've said this before, but that's like powering your car with a hamster wheel 'combined with a form of internal combustion engine.'
:rofl:

I'm surprised we don't see more advertisement like this!

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http://crossedgenres.com/simf/2010/07/2 ... -sparkles/

I wish to find a Twilight fan and expose them to this.
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Maxus wrote:http://crossedgenres.com/simf/2010/07/2 ... -sparkles/

I wish to find a Twilight fan and expose them to this.
done. I await my Twilight-crazy ex's response.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
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Prak_Anima wrote:
Maxus wrote:http://crossedgenres.com/simf/2010/07/2 ... -sparkles/

I wish to find a Twilight fan and expose them to this.
done. I await my Twilight-crazy ex's response.
Thank you.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

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I sent the link to my sister, who's also a Twilight fan.
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Maj wrote:I sent the link to my sister, who's also a Twilight fan.
Thank you, too, Maj.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

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Remember a while back I was talking about Kenshin?

Looks like the pieces I wanted to show a while back are back up on YouTube. Didn't Youtube win that lawsuit...? Anyways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1CPUSDPuVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8xK_PRzVLw
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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