Kaelik wrote:He's calling out Zine on his various claims of tolerance/evil liberal bias/other shit that I don't care about. Even if you think he's doing a bad job, that doesn't mean he's claiming it's impossible for a conservative bias to be more tolerant that TGD. If anything, he's saying that tolerance should make it impossible for Zine to detect the bias.
Except I just showed how the admin is rather right-wing biased. He is vehemently against communism. His forum hosts the Salvation War. Where George W. Bush is a genius hero.
OTOH, Wong is also an ardent opponent of Creationist Theory, hates racism in all its forms, and thinks religion is silly. But none of those contradict an anti left-wing bent. They do however, very much NOT make him an extreme bible-thumper.
And again, despite this, the board is rather even-handed. The only thing they do not tolerate are people who lie, who refuse to cite sources, and people who use racial, homophobic, or sexual slurs. Because
decent people do not need to call each other names to have a direct conversation.
@Zine you are kinda railing at the wrong thing. Lots of people who are really liberal here, like myself and Frank and Crissa are more liberal than the rest of the board like vitm, but we don't demonize people as conservative, we call them wrong, irrespective of conservative/liberal, because we have different conceptions of what are important than most people, even other liberals.
TGD is an extreme place, and an extremely liberal place, but all the extremists are not extreme versions of conventional liberalism.
They are differet types of liberalism, and no one is taking their positions because they were told to by the hive mind. I advocate murdering feti because it's something I care about, Crissa advocates sexism because it's what she cares about, and Frank advocates socialized medicine because that's his thing.
Bullshit. The fact is extremists in this board take pride in driving away anybody who isn't left-wing crazy. And they take advantage of the liberal moderating style to be assholes to people whose beliefs contradict them.
Hell. People are still high-fiving over driving away Tzor just because he's a right-wing guy.
People in SD.net though? They high-five each other for mocking stupid people, but that's it. Political affiliation has nothing to do with it.
Fact is, like always, you're just making excuses for your own asshole behavior. TGD doesn't have to be an extreme place. But frankly, the whole thesis of this thread seems to be most of the people here are giant Internet dicks who can't hack it anywhere else.
And these same people go whiny and accuse gaming sites of having a right-wing bias instead of looking at how loony left their positions are. Really, again, you're telling me that bible-thumpers own gaming sites like they own talk radio? That most D&D fan sites are run by people who think D&D is the route to a satanic cult?
'Cause I'm gonna have to point out that all the examples cited so far seem to involve individuals in those mysterious unnamed sites and not the site itself. You just
assume that there's right wing bias because they let "crazy people like that there".