Doesn't matter where, although a small place like Cleveland hardly is going to outweigh the Catholics in California and Massachusetts. The point is easily verifiable.
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Just out of curiousity, where did you get this information (about Catholic loyalty to pro-choice candidates)? Not that I don't believe you or anything but I'd be interested in looking at that particular report or study.norms29 wrote:I don't know where you guy's experiance lies, but my experiance in America has been that Catholics rarely care wat Catholicism has to say on any political subject. the most well known position the church has is a staunch opposition to Abortion, but a vast majority of catholics have proven incredibly loyal to pro-choice candidates.
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Abortion will always be a thorn in the side of American libruls, specifically the Democrats.
If that issue upped and went away then the Demonrat party would have a significant if not permanent advantage in the USA, especially in the next twenty years.
If that issue upped and went away then the Demonrat party would have a significant if not permanent advantage in the USA, especially in the next twenty years.
Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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Doesn't the Catholic Church bar you from communion if you vote for candidates that don't want to ban abortion?norms29 wrote: the most well known position the church has is a staunch opposition to Abortion, but a vast majority of catholics have proven incredibly loyal to pro-choice candidates.
In this moment, I am Ur-phoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my int score.
usually it's an individual church barring the candidate. There's really no way for the priest to know who you voted for, but if you Senator Killbaby, they know who you are and they will withhold communion as some kind of exercise in shaming you. As if you fucking care because you're a politician, you probably are only christian for the votes.Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Doesn't the Catholic Church bar you from communion if you vote for candidates that don't want to ban abortion?norms29 wrote: the most well known position the church has is a staunch opposition to Abortion, but a vast majority of catholics have proven incredibly loyal to pro-choice candidates.
this is getting kind of off topic though...
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no, only if you ARE a candidate yourself.Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Doesn't the Catholic Church bar you from communion if you vote for candidates that don't want to ban abortion?norms29 wrote: the most well known position the church has is a staunch opposition to Abortion, but a vast majority of catholics have proven incredibly loyal to pro-choice candidates.
I'm a little embaressed to admit that I can't point to any specific study. in my life it's always been "recieved wisdom" that the Catholic "Voting Block" was fairly reliable for the Democrats. although that may have just been an over generalization based on my home region of new-england.datawolf wrote: Just out of curiousity, where did you get this information (about Catholic loyalty to pro-choice candidates)? Not that I don't believe you or anything but I'd be interested in looking at that particular report or study.
now that I've gone looking for evidence on the subject I'm seeing that for at least the past 10 years Catholic voters have been eveny split according to Exit Polls. which neatly [strike]undermines[/strike] destroys my initial exaggeration of Catholic voters being "incredibly loyal" to a prochoice party, but still still supports the intended point that catholics aren't particularly prone to letting their religion influence their politics.
frankly I'm still feeling confused about the implicit equation of catholics with bible thumpers that started this tangent
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... -gap_x.htm
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Catholic+ ... 0161805171
https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/ ... sequence=8
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After all, when you climb Mt. Kon Foo Sing to fight Grand Master Hung Lo and prove that your "Squirrel Chases the Jam-Coated Tiger" style is better than his "Dead Cockroach Flails Legs" style, you unleash a bunch of your SCtJCT moves, not wait for him to launch DCFL attacks and then just sit there and parry all day. And you certainly don't, having been kicked about, then say "Well you served me shitty tea before our battle" and go home.