Moments in your gaming career that should have told you....

Roy · Post by **Roy** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:06 pm

Crit fumbles, and anyone who ever uses them is a fucking retard. Next topic now.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:54 pm

Okay, next point for discussion is that people who tend to wear black (and could possibly be called "goths" back in the day, before emo took over) tend to make shitty DMs.

Discuss.

Princess · Post by **Princess** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:31 pm

Roy wrote:Crit fumbles, and anyone who ever uses them is a fucking retard. Next topic now.

You mean anyone who play GURPS, WoD and such are fucking retards? Especially DH/RT players?

Koumei wrote:Okay, next point for discussion is that people who tend to wear black (and could possibly be called "goths" back in the day, before emo took over) tend to make shitty DMs.

Lol, that's true in my experience.

erik · Post by **erik** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:36 pm

The crit and fumble tables in MERPS were fairly hilarious. Most were just minor penalties or boosts for doing poorly or well. And the upper tier of success and lower tiers of failure were pretty splendid.

Roy · Post by **Roy** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:16 pm

Princess wrote:
Roy wrote:Crit fumbles, and anyone who ever uses them is a fucking retard. Next topic now.
You mean anyone who play GURPS, WoD and such are fucking retards? Especially DH/RT players?
Koumei wrote:Okay, next point for discussion is that people who tend to wear black (and could possibly be called "goths" back in the day, before emo took over) tend to make shitty DMs.
Lol, that's true in my experience.

Well WoD is a game that plays out raping dogs as a good thing, so yes I'd say they are highly retarded. GURPS is a game with more schizophrenia than D&D, and that's saying something.

Princess · Post by **Princess** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:20 pm

And how about Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader?

Wyzzard · Post by **Wyzzard** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:25 pm

Princess wrote:And how about Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader?

http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=51501

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:33 pm

Yeah. Not only could I make a better RPG set in the Skubhammerverse, I have done precisely that.

Worship may be directed at me at your leisure.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:06 pm

Koumei wrote:Okay, next point for discussion is that people who tend to wear black (and could possibly be called "goths" back in the day, before emo took over) tend to make shitty DMs.

Discuss.

Haha, yeah, I was a shitty DM.

Neurosis · Post by **Neurosis** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:11 pm

Koumei wrote:Okay, next point for discussion is that people who tend to wear black (and could possibly be called "goths" back in the day, before emo took over) tend to make shitty DMs.

Discuss.

Welp now this topic is just flat-out about discrimination (if it ever wasn't). Wearing black does not make you "goth" or "emo" any more than it makes you Johnny Cash. And the idea that it makes you a bad GM is even more specious.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:46 pm

Wah!? Next, you're going to say sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken!

No, I think we're supposed to take what Koumei said 100% seriously.

Neurosis · Post by **Neurosis** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:07 pm

I don't know Koumei well enough to make the call on that.

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:42 pm

Schwarzkopf wrote:Welp now this topic is just flat-out about discrimination (if it ever wasn't). Wearing black does not make you "goth" or "emo" any more than it makes you Johnny Cash. And the idea that it makes you a bad GM is even more specious.

Stop fucking whining.

"Baww discrimination." Fuck off.

Mask_De_H · Post by **Mask_De_H** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:01 pm

Schwarzkopf wrote:I don't know Koumei well enough to make the call on that.

Then you definitely need to lurk moar Schwarz.

If your DM introduces catgirls in anything other than a cracked out knockaround game, run. Run, and never stop running.

Neurosis · Post by **Neurosis** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:04 pm

Psychic Robot wrote:
Schwarzkopf wrote:Welp now this topic is just flat-out about discrimination (if it ever wasn't). Wearing black does not make you "goth" or "emo" any more than it makes you Johnny Cash. And the idea that it makes you a bad GM is even more specious.
Stop fucking whining.

"Baww discrimination." Fuck off.

Charming.

Datawolf · Post by **Datawolf** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:33 pm

Playing Rifts taught me that tabletop RPGs are not to be taken even the slightest bit seriously.

Also, TSR, WotC, Palladium Books and whoever the cockhound that is responsible for FATAL is taught me that the RPG industry is filled with idiotic, egocentric hacks.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:37 pm

Datawolf wrote:Also, TSR, WotC, Palladium Books and whoever the cockhound that is responsible for FATAL is taught me that the RPG industry is filled with idiotic, egocentric hacks.

That plus a few intelligent egocentric hacks and you've got the entire industry.

malak · Post by **malak** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:30 pm

Koumei wrote:Okay, next point for discussion is that people who tend to wear black (and could possibly be called "goths" back in the day, before emo took over) tend to make shitty DMs.

That's a given since they make bad human beings.

UmaroVI · Post by **UmaroVI** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:46 pm

Datawolf wrote: whoever the cockhound that is responsible for FATAL

That would be Byron "buttfucking ogres" Hall. Far too much of FATAL burned itself into my brain when I rolled up a character as a joke. It took 10 hours. It wasn't funny.

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:45 am

Princess wrote:And how about Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader?

Fucking horrible system.

And this is coming from a current long-term successful DH game master.

Six months of game time and I can't fucking drill into the players' heads that they have to give me either what they rolled to hit or what the locational score is.

Six. Fucking. Months. Every successful attack
"what did you roll to hit?"
"Oh I don't remember, in the 50's."
"Great. I need a number so I can tell you where you hit."
"Oh... I forgot."
"HOW CAN YOU FORGET YOU HIT LAST TURN TWO MINUTES AGO AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION THEN!!!"

I've houseruled that if you don't read me your fucking to-hit number or the hit location number, you miss. It's just barely starting to make a dent in the players' memory. I used to default it to the heaviest armored part of the target but I just got complaints that combat took too long at that point. They didn't connect that I was penalizing them.

*grumbles*

Fuck Dark Heresy's mechanics. Fuck them in the ass.

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:42 am

That gives me another idea. Just roll a d6 every time you attack instead of fiddling with reversing numbers.
1: Head
2: Chest
3: Left Arm
4: Right Arm
5: Right Leg
6: Left Leg

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:30 am

I don't think all targets are equally likely to hit.

And instead of fiddling with rolling a d6 every time, just reverse the numbers.

That's how it's done in WFRP, and never had any problem. Are there like other die rolls involved in hitting besides the percentile roll?

TheFlatline · Post by **TheFlatline** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:03 am

The rule is to reverse the die numbers.

But, my players scoop up their roll immediately after telling me if they succeed or not. They're having trouble grokking that the number still has a use once they pass the binary choice of "do you hit?"

Rolling a D8 with 2 numbers listed for the torso would work pretty well I guess. Still, it shouldn't be that hard to remember within a single combat to hold onto that roll and reverse it when I ask for it.

It's like asking how to roll a saving throw in D20 every single time you have to roll the save on levels of elementary rules.

Blasted · Post by **Blasted** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:12 am

Perhaps you could change the question from "Do you hit?" to "Where do you hit?"
Or something similar. Of course, the human brain is a marvelous thing and may gloss over the difference anyway.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:22 am

Schwarzkopf wrote:
Psychic Robot wrote:
Schwarzkopf wrote:Welp now this topic is just flat-out about discrimination (if it ever wasn't). Wearing black does not make you "goth" or "emo" any more than it makes you Johnny Cash. And the idea that it makes you a bad GM is even more specious.
Stop fucking whining.

"Baww discrimination." Fuck off.
Charming.

Lurk more, Schwarzkopf. Because you really should have realized that, if no other time, than now, discretion is the better part of value.

Malak wrote:That's a given since they make bad human beings.

Now while I may be a terrible human being, a fact that everyone I know has pointed out adequately, I'm the best dm amongst my high school friends.

...mostly because I actually have some idea of what I'm doing, and can find my way around the DM's guide without resorting to using both hands, a kindly stranger and a head lamp.