In the PF game I'm in right now the GM decided to use those fancy random charts. He rolls a +2 huge throwing sap and a suit of hide armor that is totally capped on abilities (totals a +10, and we're level 8) - none of which are worth having for anyone in our group. And while these utterly useless items of stupendous monetary value are sweet for the purpose of affording something that isn't laughable, I still don't really see the point in us taking the 20 minutes it took to deal with randomizing garbage.
I love random charts for lesser things, especially consumables. But for items that actually have some value and could potentially add to the power of the group, they're terrible.
Yeah I did read that, it was awesome!Midnight_v wrote: Did you read the link "the future will be rulled by bullshit"
So... They're buying the book because of... the cover?
I mean those things you mentioned are essentially formating editing issues. So essentially, take the srd, add lots of pretty pictures and make superficial changes to the rules that are easy to find becaues of the indexing.. viola, you've created a sellable work.
I mean, ultimately they're not buying it because its better or worse than any other system but because it LOOKS better? I find that intellectually insulting, but I can't refute your point w/out more study.
Finally... if the argument is "Who cares, we're out to tell stories" and dm fiat determines everything as you say...
I didn't mean to imply that the book being awesome is a reason to play PF. What I was responding to was the notion that If the SRD is free, why pay? I think in this case, if you are already playing PF and you have the money to spend, choosing between using the free SRD alone or using the SRD and the book is not as obvious a choice as one might think because the book really is well done. There is a good reason to buy this book if you're already playing. As a point of contrast, back when I played Conan d20, I greatly regretted buying the book because it sucked so much ("spellb.ook" copypasta fail, awful art, no color, etc).
I mentioned "Who cares, we're out to tell stories" only to illustrate why some people would basically read this whole thread and call you all a bunch of tools whose opinions don't matter. Logic bounces off of those people like a level 20 fighter bounces off a level 20 cleric who's cast one spell.