Macs are too expensive.

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:34 am

My current laptop is dying, and I'm looking for a cheap replacement. I'm just looking for something that can process basic applications and the one ten-year-old game I play. I can buy an ultra-cheap laptop from Hewlett-Packard for under $500. This laptop will do everything I need with ease. A Macbook, on the other hand, will run me $1,000, and it's marketed toward smug assholes and hipster douches.

Fuck Macs.

Post by **fbmf** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:15 am

A Macbook...[is]...marketed toward smug assholes and hipster douches.

Odds are that you are just trolling, but I heartily agree.

Game On,
fbmf

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:27 am

In-your-face max users have always reminded me of in-your-face atheists.

"Haha, look at you, using what everyone else does! Sheep!"

I just can't stand someone who's trying to be "More-Indie-Than-Thou'

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:54 am

Odds are that you are just trolling, but I heartily agree.

Not even trolling. Whenever I see those commercials, I want to punch Justin Long.

Red_Rob · Post by **Red_Rob** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:59 pm

I bet this guy owns a Mac.

erik · Post by **erik** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:14 pm

I've owned Macs exclusively for a while. Mostly because I've been tech support for Windows for far too long, and am happy to never have to deal with it again.

I concur that it sucks that it costs so much, but it also sucks so much that the nice cars cost so much and that the houses that I like in the neighborhoods that I like also cost so much. Stupid free market. Stupid wildly successful business model of targeting the most profitable market niche.

I do buy all my macs as refurbished as that knocks 100-200 off the price tag. I'm looking forward to buying an airbook (macbook air or whatever they call it) after I finally succeed in selling my house and buying a larger one.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:51 am

I thought the iphone was hilarious. My phone ($200 back in the day) does all the same things as that, except it doesn't require special Apple people to service it and charge anything they like, has "tactile feedback response" for the input (which is to say, buttons, instead of a finger-smeared touch screen), and unlike the original iphone, can actually send the pictures taken and sounds/videos recorded.

That was 2006, and it still works just fine.

One friend put it well: "you might be gay, but you're not such a [EDITED] as to use a Mac."

tzor · Post by **tzor** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:35 am

PR - what do you need to do? I'm no expert on Mac tech but it seems that they have been working on high tech super thin technology, which is not everyone's cup of tea. On the other hand, if you just want a web surfer, there is always the iPad.

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:08 am

Just web browsing, word processing, and a really crappy game.

Swordslinger · Post by **Swordslinger** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:12 am

The mac advertising campaign is all image to disguise a crap product. It's funny when I ask mac people what they like about them over PCs, they can never give me a definitive example. They always say something vague like "It's easier to use" yet can never offer anything specific. The mac people are the sheep, even though they claim everyone else is. They've been totally bought off by the advertising campaign.

Newsflash, owning a mac doesn't make you hip or cool. It just means you spent more money on an inferior product.

Vebyast · Post by **Vebyast** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:33 am

I've always been of the opinion that Apple lives and dies on its marketing. They can make good hardware, sure, but it's horrifically overprices and the software is significantly inferior in ease of use, flexibility, and capability. Their only unmitigated strengths are brainwashing and a ruthlessly repressive walled garden. If their marketing goes away, so does their brainwashing, and the walled garden follows quickly as people realize what they're missing out on.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:49 am

Apple makes nifty gadgets. They look cool, I'll give them that.

But, remember, this is a company whose CEO and idea man ranted about how he hates segways because of reasons like "they're ugly" and "the design isn't anthropomorphic" before grudgingly conceding they'll be successful in their market because they're so functional. Like that functionality was an insult to him, something it should apologize for.

Apple basically runs on being pretentious. And appealing to hipsters who try to demonstrate how they're so not part of the mainstream crowd.

(Q: How many hipsters does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: *world-weary sigh* It's a really obscure bandnumber you've probably never heard of).

I'm sure there's cool Apple computer users who don't get snide when Windows is mentioned. I haven't met any yet, though.

TOZ · Post by **TOZ** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:52 am

Actually, I notice the difference when I use Windows laptops and don't have the multitouch trackpad. And being able to scroll a non-active window behind your active window is a nice feature when working with multiple documents. But the differences between the Mac Office and Windows Office is annoying.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:59 pm

When someone comes in with an apple problem I tell them flat out that they need to go to the apple store because there's no way I can help them, and nothing I sell will work with their computer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixbzFjv_cU

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:06 pm

My current laptop is dying, and I'm looking for a cheap replacement. I'm just looking for something that can process basic applications and the one ten-year-old game I play. I can buy an ultra-cheap laptop from Hewlett-Packard for under $500.

Five minutes on Newegg confirmed my initial hunch that you could get a low-end laptop for roughly $25 cheaper if you are willing to have it say ACER instead of H/P on the front.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:59 pm

I'd pay the $25 to get rid of the Acer logo on the front, Acer computers are pieces of shit. Out of all the computers I sell, Acers get returned way more frequently than anything else due to hardware issues.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:07 pm

Well, personally I wouldn't pay an extra dime to replace it with H/P. I've owned too many H/P printers to believe that their brand is an indication of quality.

But in the abstract, is there really a fundamental difference between paying $25 more to get a brand of PC you trust and people paying a couple hundred extra because they trust Apple products?

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:23 pm

I don't see how not liking Acer because I am observing an abnormally high failure rate within the first 2 weeks is the same as me not liking Apple products because it's impossible to find accessories in this area and their fans like to scream at me because the store I work at doesn't carry any.

Remember, I sell the bloody things. It might not be scientific but I will keep my own counsel over some random dude on the internet in this case.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:07 am

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:I'd pay the $25 to get rid of the Acer logo on the front, Acer computers are pieces of shit. Out of all the computers I sell, Acers get returned way more frequently than anything else due to hardware issues.

The first computer that was really mine was an Acer laptop.

It lasted a few years. I did more damage to it anything. Although someone bumping into it when it was on a college table was NOT my fault. That was what really did it in.

Seems I got lucky with mine, though.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:08 am

My laptop is an Acer and well... it is still working even though I got it in late '06, but when I say working...

The DVD drive no longer works (at all). Many keys don't work, so I bought a USB keyboard. It has serious "grind grind churn wheeze" issues where some FLASH games make the fans spin like mad and it overheats and turns off.

Has heating issues in general. And a glitch with the screen where it suddenly goes all one colour and you have to put the PC into sleep mode to fix it.

So it works, but poorly. Anecdotal evidence I guess.

Ganbare Gincun · Post by **Ganbare Gincun** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:19 am

I don't care for Macs at all. They aren't capable of running the robust suite of software that Windows computers are. They aren't nearly as secure as most people think, and they are only going to face more issues with security in the future as they gain market share.

The best laptops you can buy are Lenovo Thinkpads. Dells aren't bad either. HP laptops are decent enough, but their technical support is TERRIBLE.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:29 am

Macs are secure like manure stalls. They don't have locks because no one wants to break in.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:33 am

Prak_Anima wrote:Macs are secure like manure stalls. They don't have locks because no one wants to break in.

Before I die, I'd like to see someone write a Mac-killing virus.

Just so they can't say "Macs don't get viruses!"

Akula · Post by **Akula** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:54 am

My mac delivered on its promise of 7 hours of battery life. The comparable windows machine I was looking at promised 2 hours. I have learning disabilities and I need my computer for stuff like note taking, the PC would not have met my needs.

Seriously guys, did a mac rape your mother? You guys are getting big e-rections of spite because of what exactly? S'cool though, I'm sure that you guys are totally cool window users that normally don't get snide when macs are mentioned.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:13 am

I had two ibook g4s die for the same manufacturing flaw in a row. The only two laptops I've ever owned, which were the biggest presents I've ever gotten from my parents.

I really have little to no problem with macs, just bad experiences, and they really are too expensive, and can't run as much software.

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