Anyone read Vornheim?
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Anyone read Vornheim?
From the same guy who created the Snakes are Books idea for RPGs, I've seen a few mentions of it, and generally enjoy his blog.
Has anyone actually gotten the book he wrote (Vornheim), and can they tell me about it as far as usefulness. I suspect opinions will be similar to opinions given about what the author generally posts on his blog, but I've never heard anyone mention such except for the snakes one.
Has anyone actually gotten the book he wrote (Vornheim), and can they tell me about it as far as usefulness. I suspect opinions will be similar to opinions given about what the author generally posts on his blog, but I've never heard anyone mention such except for the snakes one.
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No. I have just scanned the last few entries in his blog and discovered what he describes as a system-agnostic cunnilingus-motif dungeon. So, this day has been a net positive.
Thanks for reminding me about the snakes are books thing, sounds like a perfect idea to throw into a BPRD game.
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Well, he's a porn star, isn't he? I think it's safe to assume he at least has one... and that it's likely all a lot of people see him as... but PR, how would you know?
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
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I picked it up and read through it briefly tonight. It's not bad. It's half DM wankery and half brainstorming ideas for cities. There's a definite fantasy slant to the ideas, with sprawling, ugly, retro-fitted spires and shit that reflect decades of weird architecture and shit.
It's not bad, it's a decent 9 dollar PDF download, especially for urban-centric games. It's better than most of the shit that WOTC puts out that's for sure.
It's not bad, it's a decent 9 dollar PDF download, especially for urban-centric games. It's better than most of the shit that WOTC puts out that's for sure.
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pretty sure he's not. if he is that would explain a lot.Well, he's a porn star, isn't he?
he got involved in a pissing match with some of people critiquing vornheim on the rpg.net forums. wouldn't be surprised if he showed up at our doorstep now that we're talking about his stuff.but PR, how would you know?
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Count Arioch wrote:I'm not sure how discussions on whether PR is a terrible person or not is on-topic.
Ant wrote:You do not seem to do anything.Chamomile wrote:Ant, what do we do about Psychic Robot?
Zak's mini profile wrote:I'm Zak, I live in Hollywood. Most of the people I know in LA I know from work--so they're porn stars and strippers. So that's who I play D&D with.
Fair enough.PR wrote:he got involved in a pissing match with some of people critiquing vornheim on the rpg.net forums. wouldn't be surprised if he showed up at our doorstep now that we're talking about his stuff.
I, for one, welcome our new male pornstar member.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
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ten bucks says he's the fat greasy balding guy behind the camera telling chastity that if she wants to make rent she'll do ass-to-mouth and like it
Count Arioch wrote:I'm not sure how discussions on whether PR is a terrible person or not is on-topic.
Ant wrote:You do not seem to do anything.Chamomile wrote:Ant, what do we do about Psychic Robot?
Don't forget, rpg.net is a den of slavering 4E adherents and mouth breathers, so someone getting involved in a flamewar with them isn't really a slight against their character.Psychic Robot wrote:he got involved in a pissing match with some of people critiquing vornheim on the rpg.net forums. wouldn't be surprised if he showed up at our doorstep now that we're talking about his stuff.
The most recent post on his blog should have a picture with him in the background, behind the naked woman. He's also in the Hit It With My Axe webshow as the DM.
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How do you confuse a barbarian?
Put a greatsword a maul and a greataxe in a room and ask them to take their pick
How do you confuse a barbarian?
Put a greatsword a maul and a greataxe in a room and ask them to take their pick
EXPLOSIVE RUNES!
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yeah it's pretty sad, I surf there while I work just because posting on TGD might get me in trouble. the mods recently admitted to giving at least one poster a pass on being a dick because "he's usually right." remember the shitstorm that went down when frank's skill challenges analysis was posted?Don't forget, rpg.net is a den of slavering 4E adherents and mouth breathers, so someone getting involved in a flamewar with them isn't really a slight against their character.
not to derail too much, but rpg.net is aggravating because there are people who DISAGREE WITH ME ON THE MOTHERFUCKING INTERNET
Count Arioch wrote:I'm not sure how discussions on whether PR is a terrible person or not is on-topic.
Ant wrote:You do not seem to do anything.Chamomile wrote:Ant, what do we do about Psychic Robot?
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He apparently sticks his penis into women he doesn't particularly know for a living. How mature and professional do you think someone who does that is going to be?Psychic Robot wrote:yeah the author does have some cool ideas unfortunately his tone is that of a juvenile delinquet
Caveat: I've met plenty of people in the porn business, I used to work for an IT service company who had porn studios for clients, and they're all professional on the business side of it. Never met many performers however beyond a few.
Um, yeah. So Vornhiem. I've read it.
It's got a lot going for it. There are some real innovations in the layout and design that makes the whole thing more fun and a better tool.
It's less about his particular campaign city and more a collection of tools for running your own campaign city. There is info on Vornhiem but the Vorhiem that any two DMs get will be drastically different. So what you have is an organic thing that your players can play in and actually have some kind of affect on, rather than a snapshot of a city that never changes.
It's inspiring, creative and definitely worth the money for the hard cover book.
I hope that helps.
It's got a lot going for it. There are some real innovations in the layout and design that makes the whole thing more fun and a better tool.
It's less about his particular campaign city and more a collection of tools for running your own campaign city. There is info on Vornhiem but the Vorhiem that any two DMs get will be drastically different. So what you have is an organic thing that your players can play in and actually have some kind of affect on, rather than a snapshot of a city that never changes.
It's inspiring, creative and definitely worth the money for the hard cover book.
I hope that helps.
-- Are you certain that is your best course of action?
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I just wanted to point this excerpt out:
I love this idea as a Halfling legal procedure.Vornheim, p 59, Legal Stipulations wrote: 13: Trial by pie: The defendant and prosecutor have 24 hours to prepare as many pies (1 foot diameter) as possible. The accuser then consumes any one of his/her pies as quickly as possible. The defendant must then consume any one of his/her own pies as fast or faster. The accuser then must eat any one of the defendant’s pies as fast as that or faster, and then vice versa and then the sequence starts over until one party or the other is unable to finish a pie in time (and therefore loses) or runs out of pies (and therefore loses). The winner is entitled to any and all remaining pies.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
Now the question is when it'll get to my place. My friend ordered it back in Oct 25, and I await it still. It's a shame, for me, that Zak chose to have the publisher be in Europe.
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How do you confuse a barbarian?
Put a greatsword a maul and a greataxe in a room and ask them to take their pick
How do you confuse a barbarian?
Put a greatsword a maul and a greataxe in a room and ask them to take their pick
EXPLOSIVE RUNES!
Yeah, the wait time is a bit of a downer, but I think James Raggi at LotFP is probably the best publisher for something like this. He's not afraid to push the envelope.
When I ordered it I received a PDF copy right away which made it not so bad to wait. While the book is definitely a better way to go through the material, you need to check out the maps! The dungeon maps are laid out in a cool, representational model that gives visual cues for the DM. I'm visual so it makes it easier for me to run the stuff. Especially if my party does a 180 and goes to one of these places and I haven't read up on them in a while. It's nice to be able to take in a room at a glance instead of flipping pages.
As for vnonomous's idea that I'm Zak, who the hell would use "David" as a pseudonym? Seriously? What were you thinking?
For the record, I use my real name on the internet because my ego has no room for the anonymity of an internet handle.
When I ordered it I received a PDF copy right away which made it not so bad to wait. While the book is definitely a better way to go through the material, you need to check out the maps! The dungeon maps are laid out in a cool, representational model that gives visual cues for the DM. I'm visual so it makes it easier for me to run the stuff. Especially if my party does a 180 and goes to one of these places and I haven't read up on them in a while. It's nice to be able to take in a room at a glance instead of flipping pages.
As for vnonomous's idea that I'm Zak, who the hell would use "David" as a pseudonym? Seriously? What were you thinking?
For the record, I use my real name on the internet because my ego has no room for the anonymity of an internet handle.
-- Are you certain that is your best course of action?
It's all part of the conspiracy of Dave anyway.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
To be honest, I had exactly the same thought as V. You showed up:David wrote:As for vnonomous's idea that I'm Zak, who the hell would use "David" as a pseudonym? Seriously? What were you thinking?
[*]Without previous credentials...
[*]Using a name that couldn't possibly be cross-referenced ("David" may be a terrible pseudonym, but it's an amazing anonym)...
[*]Just to post in this thread...
[*]With hyperbolic praise about the author...
[*]Who has a demonstrated record of doing all of the above...
[*]And who may be doing it again.
So, sorry for the suspicion, but you fit almost every single one of the heuristics.
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It's cute that David has to prove he's not me, but this...
Oh, also, the guy who owes me ten bucks--you can just Paypal that directly to the GF at mandymorbid at gee mayle dawt calm.
(alleging I have done these things before)...is a personal attack. Please cut and paste a quote from me doing any of that--ever--or stop. Otherwise: start making some pies.Vebyast wrote:David wrote: You showed up...
[*]Using a name that couldn't possibly be cross-referenced ("David" may be a terrible pseudonym, but it's an amazing anonym)...
[*]With hyperbolic praise about the author...
[*]Who has a demonstrated record of doing all of the above...
Oh, also, the guy who owes me ten bucks--you can just Paypal that directly to the GF at mandymorbid at gee mayle dawt calm.
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