Video Games

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:54 am

Darth Rabbitt wrote: Zelda references

You know how awesome it is to have never played a Zelda game? Yeah, pretty awesome. Hell, I thought Link was Zelda (being the main character of a game called Zelda) for the longest time.

But seriously, in RGBY we had TEAM ROCKET BLAST OFF AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT, who stole Pokemon because... it's less work than catching the millions of wild pikachus or something? THEY'RE THE BADDIES, OK? The bit where they have Mob/Yakuza connotations and the boss is conducting illegal eerie experiments and is also a gym leader is fucking awesome, for the record. And I'm more than a little disappointed that there wasn't the "Officer Jenny lays down the law and fucks Jessie with a strap-on" episode in the anime, that'd be worth watching. Jessie is hot (and let's at least mention the hilarity of James' crossdressing tendencies).

As far as I can remember, Magma/Aqua/Galaxy are the same, they steal pokemon because THEY ARE THE BADDIES.

This time, we have "It looks like Greenpeace, and looking at the assholes around you, you can't help but be a bit sympathetic, shame the game doesn't have an option to give everyon the finger and join these guys".

So already that's some kind of better motivation - if fuelled by their blatant hypocrisy. The bit where you later discover (not THAT much later) that Seele the sages in charge of it secretly just want to advocate "No nuclear bombs... EXCEPT OURS, HAHAHA" is expected and boring but I suppose it's decent motivation. And then with N there believing them and being the one actual believer in their cause...

I'm just saying it's better thought-out than any of the previous Bad Dude Gangs.

the people of Unova seem like they get off on Pokemon getting hurt

Well Unova ~= America, and Americans love animal cruelty :3c

Professor Boobs Juniper: "People should be able to do anything with their Pokemon,"

That's just Libertarianism! And America loves that.

Alder is clearly a pedophile... also seems wayyy too happy with you and Cheren beating the shit out of kindergarteners

Thanks for reminding me of that :|

(then again, she did deserve to die for being so annoying.)

I would agree 100%, but she heals your Pokemon at convenient moments and also hands you Full Restores and stuff. Then again, she uses like three of the fucking things in your final battle with her (not including postgame when you can fight her every week), which is a real pain in the ass.

Note to self: also leave the rich family alone until transferring some level 100s, having to take out effectively 20 Pokemon at once is not cool. Perhaps Wonder Guard Spiritomb :3c

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:06 am

Magma and Aqua didn't steal pokemon in the games. They just wanted to wake up Groudon or Kyogre.

Magma had the better pitch for it. They claimed to be concerned about overpopulation, and wanted to use Groudon to expand the landmass to give more habitable space for people and pokemon.

Aqua wanted to make more beaches and water for...uh...recreational purposes.

Edit: Just remembered, they both wanted to get Castform. So I think we could say "They didn't want to steal all pokemon, just the ones that could screw with the weather, in furtherance of their stated goal."

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:18 am

Ah, right. I'll admit that I basically slept through 3rd Gen. I found it incredibly dull , and didn't really like the new Pokemon in it. I imagine it added some that I thought were cool, but I can't name... wait, is Mawile a 3Gen one?

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:36 am

Koumei wrote:Ah, right. I'll admit that I basically slept through 3rd Gen. I found it incredibly dull , and didn't really like the new Pokemon in it. I imagine it added some that I thought were cool, but I can't name... wait, is Mawile a 3Gen one?

Mawile is 3rd gen. I was also fond of Roselia, Sableye, Crawdaunt, Shuppet, and Relicanth.

And the 3rd gen legendaries (the Regis) were fucking terrifying.

-Username17

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:42 am

3rd gen is where crazy type combos began appearing.

I am a lifelong fan of Blaziken. Blaziken was awesome.

It was almost as awesome to have the Mudkip evolution. I just about solo'd the electric gym leader with that, JUST BECAUSE I COULD FUCK UP THE ELECTRIC GYM WITH A WATER TYPE.

Metagross was fun, too. Steel/Psychic, some good moves...

Aron was surprisingly badass, too, if you got one immune to recoil. Then you could just Takedown the fuck out of everything. I used a similar approach with Aerodactyl...

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:45 am

Oh, Shuppet->Banette, they're awesome too!

And the dogs are pretty cool, too. When I played it, Poochyeena/Mightyeena was my main sweeper.

As for Legendaries, it was nice for them to all be about a million feet tall, as opposed to human sized (Mewtwo) or soccer ball sized (Mew), but 3rd was when we started really getting the flood of Legendaries. 1G had 4/5 (based on whether you include Mew), 2G added 7, or 8 if you consider that Celebi was supposed to be in G/S. Already this is heaps. Then 3G gives us... 3 Regis, 3 Dragons, Jirachi, Deoxys (all formes treated as one). 4 doesn't help, bringing in 3 more dragons, 3 near-identical pixies, Shaymin, Arceus, Darkrai, Regigigas, Rotom, Heatran...

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:15 pm

I actually liked Team Rocket the most, not only because they were the best characters in the show (and possibly the best Saturday morning cartoon villains outside of the Foot Clan from the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,) but because in game they were the only team where we aren't given some reason why they go around being villains (other than it being awesome, and realizing that having Pokemon would make it much easier to take over the world) and didn't center their plans around the game's version mascot.

Magma/Aqua/Galactic wanted to use the game's legendaries to alter the world into a better one in some manner (the latter to destroy the universe and make a new one, which is kind of badass,) Plasma (supposedly) wanted to free everyone's Pokemon, but Team Rocket doesn't have any particular plans for people's Pokemon or legendaries.

They just want to use them for the sake of being villains world domination, and that's all too rare in bad guys these days.

I found Gen III the most difficult of the generations, since generally it was hard to find Pokemon with good abilities (therefore the Ability system was wildly in favor of your opponents) and it still had the type-based system for Special Attack/Attack divide (so biting your opponent was based off Special Attack, but shooting balls of darkness at them was based of Attack, yada yada yada) which made a large number of Pokemon really weak (admittedly Gen I and II had this problem too, but I didn't find it as bad in those.)

And yeah, the Mudkip evolution line is super fucking awesome.

Mudskippers are awesome on basic principle.

I also love Barboach (I've loved weather loaches ever since I had two as pets for 7 years,) but not Wishcash (that thing is as ugly as butt.)

ishy · Post by **ishy** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:44 pm

Koumei wrote:You know how awesome it is to have never played a Zelda game? Yeah, pretty awesome. Hell, I thought Link was Zelda (being the main character of a game called Zelda) for the longest time.

I really understand how that feels, I for example have never played Tohou, disengea, pokemon(other than at the start of the trading card game), final fantasy or any of the playstation games. Haven't watched star wars, nor most of star trek, and have never read any superhero comics. So when people start talking about those, I have no clue what they mean.

- Edit: And was talking to someone yesterday who didn't know who the teenage mutant ninja turtles are. Didn't even know how to respond to that.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:47 am

Darth Rabbitt wrote:and didn't center their plans around the game's version mascot.

Not including PkMn Yellow (or the anime, which Yellow uis based on). But the anime doesn't count, and I'm okay with the idea of holding a vote to pretend Yellow never happened.

I found Gen III the most difficult of the generations, since generally it was hard to find Pokemon with good abilities (therefore the Ability system was wildly in favor of your opponents)

Yeah, true. I haven't actually finished Emerald, I'm up to the Elite 4. I instead just used it to upload Pokemon into Diamond, until I bought an AR and just captured them all in the wild in Diamond. All Shinies, too! How about that!

and it still had the type-based system for Special Attack/Attack divide

That was possibly what made me like 4Gen so much. Splitting the moves into separate Physical and Special pools was one of the best changes ever. I mean, Double Battles (and thus the combo moves, assist moves etc.) are interesting (and probably a bigger system change), and triple/rotational battles are really just a small change to that.

Adding Abilities was an awesome thing (and then the hidden abilities was a cute change), splitting the Special stat into Sp. Att. and Sp. Def. was good, but yeah, having Gyarados be able to use its massive Attack stat to Waterfall enemies, Bellyzard's Fire Punch, Weavile suddenly having physical Ice and Dark attacks, Gengar's Shadow Balls being Special... massively important.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:03 am

I'm personally more concerned with forgetting that Black/White happened; Yellow was an early enough mistake to forgive, and was still much better than Black/White IIRC.

Might just be nostalgia though.

And yeah, Generation IV is by far the best generation (due to the fact that every change made was a significant improvement from the previous generations,) although I figure that goes without saying.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:01 am

I've got Platinum around here somewhere...Maybe I should fire it up...

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:21 am

Finally bought the full version of Minecraft around a week ago, and immediately dived into the world of mods (Tekkit, mainly). Factory stuff is fun, and the sprawl of transport pipes in my repurposed mining area looks pretty cool. Still trying to get them to actually work as intended without having to build dozens of redstone engines.

Hadanelith · Post by **Hadanelith** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:24 am

Ganbare Gincun wrote:
Guyr Adamantine wrote:Tell me about it. I got 24 mods on FNV, including Requiem For A Capital Wasteland, which gives Fallout 3 as playing ground. Its fucking awesome.
Where pray tell can you get Requiem For A Capital Wasteland these days? They pulled it from The Nexus over some kind of copyright legal bullshit. I'm 100 hours into Fallout: New Vegas with Project Nevada installed, and I wouldn't mind picking up Fallout 3 for the PC and replaying it with the New Vegas armor, weapons, and companions.

Behold: http://morroblivion.com/forums/fallout- ... lands/2665

Don't know if this is the newest patch, but a little looking around those forums should get you there. Enjoy.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:12 pm

Koumei wrote: Hell, I thought Link was Zelda (being the main character of a game called Zelda) for the longest time.

I did, too.

Koumei wrote: Jessie is hot (and let's at least mention the hilarity of James' crossdressing tendencies).

You wanna talk about James' crossdressing? Then behold!

(And yes, you're right. Jesse is really smokin'.)

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:33 pm

Yes, speaking of Holiday at Aopulco...

They're bigger than Jessie's, for fucks sake

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:18 pm

the people of Unova seem like they get off on Pokemon getting hurt

Dude, have you ever played Pokemon Red and Blue? Like, the originals, not the remakes where they got rid of all that.

As far as "best gens", I thought the story and world and a lot of the new guys in DP were pretty dumb but the mechanics changes it brought were awesome. Also its legendaries outside of Darkrai and Giratina were stupid, and one literally resembled a penis.

I like a lot of the new guys in BW, but I seriously wish they would stop making pokemon like Victini.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:09 am

In Red/Blue, the reason they show Team Rocket and such hurting and killing Pokemon is too show that they are very ebil. Mr. Fuji even says that Team Rocket are unredeemable assholes 'cause of this. Only the bad guys hurt things.

In Black/White, Alder just says to you, "Go and ass-blast the hell outta some weakling kindergarteners and their low-level Pokemon because pain is a good life lesson and I ejaculate over the tears of children." Or something like that.

However, if you're referring to the fact that the Pokemon series is about ten-year-olds going out into the big ole world forcing other, often sentient, sometimes sapient, creatures to fight to the death, then, well, okay. However, I would point out that children going around doing things that no parent in their right mind would let them do is a staple of JRPGs. Pretty much every protagonist is a small child that goes around hurting things. In Dragon Quest V, the game starts off with the player character as a 5-year old going around murdering monsters, sometimes recruiting them after beating their ass, and then seeing your dad get murdered by a fireball. So Pokemon is not alone in such things.

Plus, I happen to like it when sentient beings suffer and burn in the name of Gyub, Lord of the Pit.

Uh, just ignore that, actually...

PLUS!

Prak_Anima wrote:Yes, speaking of Holiday at Aopulco...

They're bigger than Jessie's, for fucks sake

That's 'cause James can inflate his super-awesome chocolaty fudge-covered super card breasts. They're objects of divine inspired beauty.

Also, is that supposed to be the image that indicates James' awesome tits? If so, I am confused. Well, more confused than usual. And that's saying something.

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:09 am

What is the reason behind the "profesor boobs" thing? I just googled Professor Juniper, and by anime standards she's about average.

And James is still pretty without the inflatable boobs.

hyzmarca · Post by **hyzmarca** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:12 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:Yes, speaking of Holiday at Aopulco...

They're bigger than Jessie's, for fucks sake

You can avoid those anti-hotlinking pictures by using an upload service. It's easy and polite.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:27 pm

Damnit. It was showing over here.

Surgo wrote:I like a lot of the new guys in BW, but I seriously wish they would stop making pokemon like Victini.

What, specifically, is your problem with victini? I don't particularly like it either, I'm just curious as to your issue.

hyzmarca · Post by **hyzmarca** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:00 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:Damnit. It was showing over here.

That's because it was already in your cache. Go the the site and your browser caches the pic. It isn't going to bother downloading it again until something clears your cache or forces it to, so every time it finds a reference to that link it'll give display the picture it already has.

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:39 am

Shrapnel wrote:In Red/Blue, the reason they show Team Rocket and such hurting and killing Pokemon is too show that they are very ebil. Mr. Fuji even says that Team Rocket are unredeemable assholes 'cause of this. Only the bad guys hurt things.

Dude, the Ace Trainer equivalent in Red/Blue used whips -- just like Team Rocket guys.

Prak_Anima wrote:What, specifically, is your problem with victini? I don't particularly like it either, I'm just curious as to your issue.

I'm really tired of the "stupid cute Mew clone with 100 base stats across the board" thing. It worked for Mew because it was the first of the line, and arguably Celebi because it hadn't gotten old yet (and it also wasn't retardedly cute). But they keep pumping these out at the rate of at least 1 per generation and it's getting old. The things they do to try to make them unique have gotten bad too -- holy crap, they gave Victini a 180 base power move.

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:59 am

Ted the Flayer wrote:What is the reason behind the "profesor boobs" thing? I just googled Professor Juniper, and by anime standards she's about average.

And James is still pretty without the inflatable boobs.

On the first, it was primarily an attempt at humor that apparently failed.

On the second I agree wholeheartedly.

Surgo wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:In Red/Blue, the reason they show Team Rocket and such hurting and killing Pokemon is too show that they are very ebil. Mr. Fuji even says that Team Rocket are unredeemable assholes 'cause of this. Only the bad guys hurt things.
Dude, the Ace Trainer equivalent in Red/Blue used whips -- just like Team Rocket guys.

Didn't Ace Trainers only appear in Viridian Gym and Victory Road, though (and maybe some of the Routes whose names currently escape me?)

One of those is (effectively) a Team Rocket base, and the other is where every strong trainer goes, regardless of how nice or mean they are.

I also vaguely recall a Pokemon Tamer trainer class that also carried whips, but were only found in the same places.

There are also the Bikers on Bicycle Road, or whatever, that threaten to beat the shit out of you, and steal your Pokemon and money, but they're also supposed to be TEH BAD GUYS (just not plot relevant ones.)

I'm not going to claim that any of the Pokemon games are shining examples of morality, but Red/Blue wasn't that super fucked up.

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:09 am

Looks like there's going to be a new isometric Infinity Engine style RPG.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obs ... t-eternity

DSMatticus · Post by **DSMatticus** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:30 am

There is nothing there. Literally nothing. They said, "we'll make an oldschool rpg. Here are names of some other games you may have liked," and put it on kickstarter, and bam. Imagine working as a videogame developer (or any software developer) and trying to secure a million dollars of investment with a pitch that contains two words ("oldschool RPG") of substance.

Kickstarter is stupid.