Help me to not hate Scion

[Aryxbez]

Try Hercules in New York

aw...damn, I missed my chance, twas totally going to reference that, I guess we're of the few people that have seen this movie eh?

In a way, I'm kinda surprised the ancient Arthurian legends weren't an option as well, what with old legends where Bedivere could apparently turn into a giant, or gawain's timed super strength. Though, I did find it kinda awesome that the American legends were counted amongst the number.

Conceptually speaking, this is totally something I would want to play. Alternatively though, I do wonder if it would be better, if instead, the player played as one of the straight up GODS of the given mythology, put into a mortal form? Could even have it played off that, you're powered down a bit due to the mortal form, and over time your mortal coil learns to hold more of it, remember more, or otherwise earn it back. The wikipedia article on this game alone, shows the sheer amount of gods available, so there would be plenty of gods to choose from. I could see something like this being ran as a Shin Megami Tensei campaign, going around, beating off angels, gods and concepts, all God of War style.

So now, given this conceptually awesome piece here, I wonder, what system would handle this idea better? Would ye be better off just choosing a superhero RPG, like Mutants & Masterminds, Champions, or ye think it would just require rewrite of a new game?

[Archmage]

I could see something like this being ran as a Shin Megami Tensei campaign, going around, beating off angels, gods and concepts, all God of War style.

Yes, a robust angel handjob subsystem is definitely mandatory for a White Wolf-inspired game.

[Prak]

Well, I don't recall ever seeing that in here... But I only paged through it once at a store.

[Username17]

Holy fuck the information density is low in Scion's fluff text.

“Don’t make him too overconfident,” Hugin murmured.
“No, Eric,” Munin said. “Where the Gods need you—where your father needs you—most of all is here.”
“As what, a last line of defense?”
“Nope,” Hugin said. “A first.”
“I don’t understand.”
“The Titans—” Munin began.
“Wait,” Hugin said. “Let me do this one.”
“Oh, would you prefer to—”
“I really would.”
“Very well, then. Proceed, by all means.”
“You don’t mind, do you?”
“Perish the thought.”

AAAAAAAARGH!

-Username17

[wotmaniac]

you bothered reading more than a page of the fluff?
1 of the (several) things I really hate about WW are the vacuous novellas that apparently must clutter-up every single book. (another big one being their whole "here's something that's totally awesome -- now, here's why it completely sucks" ..... which seems to have been accidentally subverted in Scion)



Oh, thanks guys -- I'm starting to come around on this. I think that the issue was that I was still in the Aberrant mind-set, and was having trouble getting out of it (I'm still not quite sure why I so closely associate the 2 .... that is, beyond the fact that they happen to both be WW products).

Yes, a robust angel handjob subsystem is definitely mandatory for a White Wolf-inspired game.

I wholeheartedly approve this message.

Remember that it's a WW game so you're supposed to be [...] fucking absolutely everyone who you aren't murdering - and even then, that's no guarantee.

Eh -- I'm passing on the Death purview

[Username17]

you bothered reading more than a page of the fluff?
1 of the (several) things I really hate about WW are the vacuous novellas that apparently must clutter-up every single book. (another big one being their whole "here's something that's totally awesome -- now, here's why it completely sucks" ..... which seems to have been accidentally subverted in Scion)

Scion's opening 38 page short story is extremely useless, but it is almost the entirety of the fluff text of Scion. Which is to say: Scion has an incredibly cluttered world and tells you almost nothing about it despite having two hundred thousand words to work with.

Really, I should just drink a bunch and post a drunk review of Scion.

Oh, thanks guys -- I'm starting to come around on this. I think that the issue was that I was still in the Aberrant mind-set, and was having trouble getting out of it (I'm still not quite sure why I so closely associate the 2 .... that is, beyond the fact that they happen to both be WW products).

Aberrant is actually similar to Scion in a bunch of ways. Aberrant was an attempt to make a gritty science fiction super heroes game using a hack on the Storyteller system. Scion is an attempt to make a gritty supernatural heroes game using a hack on the Storytelling system. Both have extremely terrible (if very different) rules for "Epic Attributes". In many ways, Scion is a reboot of Aberrant using the new edition rules.

-Username17

[Archmage Joda]

Really, I should just drink a bunch and post a drunk review of Scion.

I would love to see either this or an "Anatomy of Failed Design" for Scion.

[Silent Wayfarer]

I second drunken reviews of Scion, and tbh I have never read any of their chapter fiction for games which are not Exalted. Then again I really like that broken mishmash of a game despite its flaws, so yeah.

[Dogbert]

The setting had potential, but said potential is completely wasted on a vapid "monster of the week" premise in purest DB-Z fashion.

The game is not about being a MYTHOLOGICAL hero (as in, become a legend and do BIG (not necessarily good) things), it's about a lame sentai. Like playing superheroes, but without the autonomy,

[wotmaniac]

Aberrant is actually similar to Scion in a bunch of ways. [...] In many ways, Scion is a reboot of Aberrant using the new edition rules.

you're not helping me get out of my box.