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zugschef wrote:
Grek wrote:Not really. I mean, for one Knox didn't actually kill anyone, where as O.J totally did.
lol dude... the only guy who is in jail is a black dude from ivory coast who admitted being there, but didn't actually commit the murder or rape her.
His DNA is all over and inside the corpse, and his story of events completely fails to explain all the evidence in the room. I mean, I guess you could argue that the Italian police have framed him by fabricating and/or lying about evidence after the fact, but judging from the Knox case the Italian police actually do a shitty job of framing people.

I really don't know why anyone would believe that Amanda Knox was provably guilty, and at this point there are half a dozen major things the police did that were absolutely bullshit in order to make her look guilty. The corruption in this case is clear and obvious, and Knox herself looks only as guilty as a random person off the street would. So in the sense that anyone at all could have committed the murder, yes, Knox could be guilty. But that's not exactly a very strong argument. Things the police did wrong include:

1) The interrogation. Whether or not you believe Knox's version of the interrogation, fine, whatever, but of the four days following the murder she spent basically every waking hour being interrogated by police. That's a pretty clearcut case of how to make someone break under pressure. When Knox did point the finger at someone after five days of questioning and interrogation, it turned out to be someone totally unrelated to the case (who later sued her). Which is completely consistent with how high pressure interrogation tactics work: eventually people just tell you something they think you want to hear because you have broken them down. If they don't have anything to tell you they give you gibberish. The police got gibberish.

2) She was approached by officers in civilian clothes who tried to casually interrogate her about the case, strike up small talk, and whatever else, and then things she said or did were taken out of context or exaggerated or lied about. When she was actually in prison, the prison fabricated a positive test for HIV, asked for a list of sexual partners, and then leaked them to the public. All in order to use it at trial to drive home their "she's a deviant sex freak, and everyone knows deviant sex freaks murder their flatmates" motive.

3) The police outright destroyed evidence involving Knox and Sollecito's alibi rather than hand it over to the defense: the computer the two said they were watching a movie on.

4) Most of the the eye witnesses that came forward against did so like half a year later, and were fairly ridiculous and unreliable testimonies on top of that.

5) The DNA evidence tying Knox and Sollecito to the scene is either a) nonexistent, b) from the deliberate use of low quality techniques that prove somewhere between nothing and fuck all (and then passed off as proper DNA analysis, which they were not), or c) has a broken chain of custody in which it could have been contaminated or outright fabricated at any point. As in, it spent more than a month missing and was then readmitted into evidence.

6) There's no fucking motive. None. Zilch. They had nothing. It basically came down to "she has sex, so she stabbed her flatmate."
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zugschef wrote:lol dude... the only guy who is in jail is a black dude from ivory coast who admitted being there, but didn't actually commit the murder or rape her. the court in italy actually wants to resume the whole case. she was sentenced to 3 years in prison for defaming, though.
Rudy Guede totally did it. That's been established at trial using DNA evidence. There's no additional evidence to demonstrate that anyone else was involved, nor any reason to think that Guede couldn't have murdered someone all by himself.
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Sometimes judges get to have fun writing their opinions: http://www.woai.com/media/lib/12/5/9/5/ ... _Order.pdf
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zugschef wrote:
Grek wrote:Not really. I mean, for one Knox didn't actually kill anyone, where as O.J totally did.
lol dude... the only guy who is in jail is a black dude from ivory coast who admitted being there, but didn't actually commit the murder or rape her. the court in italy actually wants to resume the whole case. she was sentenced to 3 years in prison for defaming, though.
Because we know for sure that the italian justice system isn't flawed in any way.... http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ntists-get

Seriously dude, your posts regarding this case just highlight how gullible and, quite Frankly™, how stupid you really are. At this point, there are only two possible explanations for your declarations :
1- You are simply an idiot loudmouth that just repeats the first thing that you remember without bothering with facts
2- You are a gullible idiot who is incapable of understanding objective information and defers his judgement to pundits and talking heads.

The evidence against Amanda Knox is 100% circumstantial and would in no way incriminate her in a jurisdiction that has a legal system that isn't pants-on-head retarded.[/url]
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Those people need to read more Cracked. That's like the first thing on the list of things that rich people need to stop saying: 'Sure, it's an objectively large sum of money, but it is far smaller after I spend it.'
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I can only assume that Disney doesn't want to go through the expense and effort of an in-house videogame division, and their leadership doesn't know much about the industry, so they decided to toss the license to a company whose name they actually recognized and which owned companies that released Star Wars games before.

Tossing an exclusive and universal license to a single company certainly isn't the sort of thing you would normally do with such a large brand, no matter which company. I'm sure there are markets for more Star Wars games across every single genre and all major non-mobile platforms than any one company can fill.

It's alternately possible that EA paid up front with an absolute truckload of money and are now hoping to sell 20 million units between three triple-A games that will sell 1.2 million each, and Disney execs are high-fiving on the new container ship they bought to store all the money they just made. EA does have a habit of buying things for way more than they're worth.
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disney made at least one really good video game i think, and that was Tron 2.0 . .
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When EA isn't doing stupid experiments with Facebook games, mobile games, and free-to-play stuff--the stuff that Disney is reserving the right to make themselves--they're actually reasonably solid. Obviously the most exciting prospect is for EA's big three of DICE (Battlefield, Mirror's Edge), Visceral (Dead Space) and Bioware (Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect) to make Star Wars games. What seems more likely is that they will mostly be having their lesser studios like Danger Close or regional spinoffs of well-known studios do movie tie-ins. But if we somehow got a triple-A Star Wars shooter from DICE, I'd be pretty thrilled.
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I've got a friend who worked on Disney-license videogames before, and he had some horrifying stories.

The short version is, don't expect EA to have any creative control whatsoever on the games they'll make with the license.
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You do realise that now that you alluded to those stories, you are obligated to share them? Pretty please?

On a more on-topic note: Please EA, I've been hurt way too often by you lately. Could you please start trying, like you used to?
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Right.

First, there was the "this doesn't match the Official Allowed Art Book" story.

Basically, when you work with a Disney character, they send you this huge file of images to make sure you don't change how Mickey looks. Disney is very big on product identity, so that's understandable.

What is less understandable is the degree of "you can't change how Mickey looks." You have to use the exact same shade of red. The buttons on his pants have to be exactly at the same place. His "happy" pose has to be the official one. And so on.

That isn't a huge issue if you're making, say, Kingdom Hearts 2 (although I imagine it's gotta be hell on the animators). It is when you're creating a game for a much more limited system. One that, say, has less than seventy gajillion colors and still displays stuff in pixels.

In the same vein, we have the "Mickey wouldn't do that" story. Disney wants a kart game (in the style of Super Mario Kart.) That's important: this is what Disney wants.

Except that while historical Mickey was kind of a racist jerk, Official Modern Mickey is only mean to Officially Approved Bad Guys. Official Modern Mickey won't throw Knock-Off-Green-Shells at Goofy, because that's mean. Oh, and he doesn't cheat, either. So, Disney wants a Mario Kart knockoff that doesn't have items or shortcuts. Oh, and Mickey can't be worse at anything than Donald, too. So you've got a kart game with linear tracks, no items, and a character that has to be the clear best at everything. That must have been awesome to play.

The third story is the "Disney cancels the game" story. It has a happy ending, however. I don't remember exactly what the initial game was supposed to be about, but you basically had to guide Mickey to a building where he'd get a gift or something.

The game is mostly finished, but Disney decides that they just don't want it anymore. It sucks, but that's what dealing with Disney is about.

Obviously, the game company doesn't want to just throw the product down the drain, but then again it's ultimately a shitty game (see also: Disney license) that nobody really cares about. Thankfully for the company, they have a contract to produce a bunch of shovelware, and they figure it can fit as one of their product for that contract.

So my friend gets to work on that game, with the clear goal of just wrapping it up as it is, using assets from other cancelled products instead of making new things. So the painstakingly-built Mickey gets a change of clothes, gains a couple of pixels of height and loses twenty pounds, and so on. The game of course loses whatever plot it had and instead becomes "guide RandomMouseRabbitThingy to this building."

What happens when you get there? RandomMouseRabbitThingy goes into the building, and a pie comes out of the other side.

Yeah. Disney financed a game where you guide Mickey to a meat processing plant.
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http://www.popehat.com/wp-content/uploa ... sOrder.pdf
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Meanwhile, in Australia:
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...yes, those appear to be tits hanging off it. It's some kind of great project by the government. Or something.
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It's to celebrate the Centenary of the political capital moving to a farm in the middle of nowhere, which turned a perfectly good farm into a small city that doesn't work, but at least got the politicians out of Sydney.

Google says Australian opinion is divided, by which I'm astounded. What better to represent the foundation of a political city than a great bunch of boobs going wherever the wind blows it.

It's absolutely fucking spectacular genius. And how it got government funding is incomprehensible, which makes it even better.
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The artist, Patricia Piccinini, has a history of creating art intended to create discourse on social issues.

I got dragged along to an exhibit a few years ago. Wierd stuff.

Here is the Young Family. A sculpture that was created when some issues of biotechnology were creating headlines a few years ago

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As for her piece celebrating the centenary of Canberra...It's a hot air balloon. I see it as a form of guerrilla communication, escpecially considering the political climate in this country.
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Winnah wrote:I see it as a form of guerrilla communication
Yeah. It says, "The government is full of tit-heads who are willing to pay for this kind of thing."
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Well yes, I think so. If it was a subversive prank played against the people who commisioned the 'art', or the various politicians and public servants in Canberra, then it is kind of amusing.

On it's merits as art, removed from all context, I think I could make a better sculpture by taking a shit. But what do I know?
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I could have sworn I saw that thing on Snopes years ago when some asshole started circulating pictures of it claiming something about the government creating non-humans for slave labor purposes.
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RobbyPants wrote:I could have sworn I saw that thing on Snopes years ago when some asshole started circulating pictures of it claiming something about the government creating non-humans for slave labor purposes.
Had a religious natural rights professor who talked about cloning where they put human DNA in a pig ovum that had the DNA removed.

Basically, he thought it was an elaborate plot by evil science to create slave labor, because they wouldn't be human and wouldn't have rights.

Which is funny, because that is a proper response by people who think humanity is determined by souls, but to anyone sensible, the DNA is the actual determination of who is human, and the DNA is 100% human.
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Kaelik wrote:[...]but to anyone sensible, the DNA is the actual determination of who is human, and the DNA is 100% human.
this is arrogant bs. you don't need to be religious to hold humans to higher standards than fuckin dna.
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zugschef wrote:
Kaelik wrote:[...]but to anyone sensible, the DNA is the actual determination of who is human, and the DNA is 100% human.
this is arrogant bs. you don't need to be religious to hold humans to higher standards than fuckin dna.
*sighs* I'm going to regret this. Go on, tell me what are these higher standards.
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