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fectin · Post by **fectin** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:48 pm

Darth Rabbitt wrote:Hilariously terrible anti-suffragette cartoons.

Eh. Going as Dionysian as possible is hardly a good way to prove that you should be part of guiding society. The ends were certainly good, but with the means they chose, it's hardly surprising the suffragettes ran into so much stonewalling.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:51 pm

fectin wrote:Eh. Going as Dionysian as possible is hardly a good way to prove that you should be part of guiding society.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:28 am

It means that holding half the population of the world as second-class citizens is pretty effing deplorable, but that Suffragette tactics may very well have hurt their cause more than they helped. Via wiki:
http://www.johndclare.net/Women2_DidSuf ... esHelp.htm
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... gettes.pdf

...exactly like any sane person would expect. The fuck did you think I meant?

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:35 am

fectin wrote:It means that holding half the population of the world as second-class citizens is pretty effing deplorable, but that Suffragette tactics may very well have hurt their cause more than they helped. Via wiki:
http://www.johndclare.net/Women2_DidSuf ... esHelp.htm
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... gettes.pdf

...exactly like any sane person would expect. The fuck did you think I meant?

For those of us too lazy to read through a poorly formatted article and a lengthy PDF, do you mind giving a summary of said tactics?

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:49 am

fectin wrote:but that Suffragette tactics

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The fuck did you think I meant?

No, I mean, what the fuck does using the term Dynosian mean when describing their tactics?

Are you saying they ate too much food one their marches? They sexed too much on their marches? What did they do that makes a description of "Going as Dionysian as possible" accurate or even helpful?

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:18 am

RobbyPants wrote:For those of us too lazy to read through a poorly formatted article and a lengthy PDF, do you mind giving a summary of said tactics?

TL;DR: Bombs in churches, vandalism, and arson. As reported and praised by the Suffragette newspaper, apparently.

@Kaelik
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dionysian

Very roughly, Dionysian is destroying or eschewing the trappings of civilization and Apollonian is building or preserving them. It's more complicated than just good and bad (e.g. abolitionism is probably Dionysian), but generally if you want to be part of some society, you should avoid tearing that society down.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:52 am

No, generally Dionysian means getting drunk having parties, and fucking around. It does not mean destroying civilization.

Which is what you would find out if you read the things that show up right at the top of your own google search.

So yes, you used a word to mean something it doesn't fucking mean, IE violence, and then you are too stupid to see how a reference to hedonism is confusing in that context.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:13 pm

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:35 pm

Sadistically adorable and adorably sadistic. I like.

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:12 pm

Kaelik wrote:No, generally Dionysian means getting drunk having parties, and fucking around. It does not mean destroying civilization.

Which is what you would find out if you read the things that show up right at the top of your own google search.

So yes, you used a word to mean something it doesn't fucking mean, IE violence, and then you are too stupid to see how a reference to hedonism is confusing in that context.

You're thinking of "Bacchanalian".

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:27 pm

Uh, both those words refer to the same greco-roman god of getting roaring drunk.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:43 pm

fectin wrote:
Kaelik wrote:No, generally Dionysian means getting drunk having parties, and fucking around. It does not mean destroying civilization.

Which is what you would find out if you read the things that show up right at the top of your own google search.

So yes, you used a word to mean something it doesn't fucking mean, IE violence, and then you are too stupid to see how a reference to hedonism is confusing in that context.
You're thinking of "Bacchanalian".

No, I am thinking of Dionysian. Here, from there very first link of the google search: "Dionysus is the god of wine, ecstasy, and intoxication."

So are you going to admit that asking what you meant was perfectly valid when I googled it first, and the first two links tell me that:
1) The definition of the term Dionysian is "of or relating to the Greek god Dionysis."
2) The Greek god Dionysis is the Greek god of drinking, partying, whoring, sexing, and sexing, not the Greek god of overthrowing the existing political system through violent murder and riots.

Or are you going to keep pushing this thing where I was supposed to interpret your reference to a god of drinking and sex as attempting to destroy the system through violent murder.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:44 pm

And yet they are different words.

Now, granted Dionyssian and Apollonian have specific meanings in philosophical contexts. Everyone raise your hand if you'd ever heard them to mean those things, I'll wait.

Yeah, fectin, I'm sorry, but Kaelik is totally right here. To a person who does not have a very specific background in philosophy, dionyssian just means "characteristic of having roaring parties."

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:54 pm

http://www.somethingawful.com/comedy-go ... wn-guns/1/

Orion · Post by **Orion** » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:34 pm

And even if we're talking about The Birth of Tragedy, the Suffragettes still aren't Dionysian.

Fighting, even violently, for the right to vote -- that is, to participate in a civic institution -- is not and never will be the same as "trying to destroy civilization." Neither side has a monopoly on violence-- Nietzsche namechecks the Spartans as the original Apollonians in his fake history.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:02 pm

/me is impressed by this:

violence in the media · Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:15 pm

Okay, that is pretty sweet.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:05 pm

While there is a certain amount of my inner child that thinks that's awesome, I can't help but look at that footprint and think "why not emulators?".

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:25 pm

'cause emulators don't look that cool.

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:46 pm

http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop ... s-stine/2/

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:00 am

A room full of posters + a stylized computer full of emulators probably looks cooler to me. Granted, if you already have all those systems then this works.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:03 pm

Avoraciopoctules wrote:http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop ... s-stine/2/

What's with the internet and fedoras (third one down)?

Guyr Adamantine · Post by **Guyr Adamantine** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:30 pm

Shrapnel wrote:
Avoraciopoctules wrote:http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop ... s-stine/2/
What's with the internet and fedoras (third one down)?

http://www.explosm.net/comics/3089/

http://www.explosm.net/comics/3167/

Tumbling Down · Post by **Tumbling Down** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:47 pm

Shrapnel wrote:What's with the internet and fedoras (third one down)?

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:30 pm

Can't believe I hadn't seen this one before: