Then you're stilling missing the point. They declared one the default (which is functional, if sloppy*), and then 'clarified' with that the other is also sometimes true.Kaelik wrote:Yes, it is telling of the fact that whether or not you arbitrarily declare that the baseline could only ever be that allies doesn't include you means that you are more likely to make mistakes that deprive people of bonuses than give them ones they shouldn't have.DSMatticus wrote:But the fact that you managed to start bitching about people not getting their aura bonuses in your first response to Voss is kind of... telling.
Since one of those is a problem and the other is not, it makes perfect sense to declare the default to be the one with no problems.
They're not even going to go part way and provide samples of ones that don't include you, just a general vague warning that those cases exist in the rules, which opens the door for all sorts of fun places for the game to suddenly bog down.
Taking away the caster's or source's bonus was never part of the discussion, except for you, in your own head.
*though I can accept DSM's response of 'shut up no one cares' about the linguisic bit.