What kind of creature does this look like to you?

[deaddmwalking]

In fact, what happens when goblin A kills a T-Rex and wears a T-Rex hat, and then goblin B kills goblin A. Does goblin B wear the T-Rex hat, or a goblin hat (since the goblin was more powerful than the T-Rex)?

Of course he wears the T-Rex hat. Even if the T-Rex isn't 'more powerful', it looks more powerful. But better than that, if he kills the goblin and gets his T-Rex hat, he ought to go find something even bigger so he can definitively prove that he is definitely a bigger bad-ass than the T-Rex killing goblin that he took down.

There's always a chance that a 'lesser opponent' takes a 'better opponent' some time. That's why a lot of sports use a series of games rather than just a single match. Monsters that don't advance by leveling make a good 'standard' by which to measure general power. In the early season of football, it's hard to say which team is REALLY the best, because they typically haven't played the same opponents. Notre Dame may be overrated because they didn't play any SEC teams before playing in the National Championship. Having a 'core' that everyone can play against (which monsters that don't advance by level can provide) can help establish power-level without having constant warfare.

This is the same general principle that has people going out to kill lions when they 'become a man'.

[Cyberzombie]

In fact, what happens when goblin A kills a T-Rex and wears a T-Rex hat, and then goblin B kills goblin A. Does goblin B wear the T-Rex hat, or a goblin hat (since the goblin was more powerful than the T-Rex)?

Obviously it's not a perfect system. There's always going to be that one goblin that lucks out and finds a dead/half-dead T-rex, kills it and lugs its body parts back.

That's what bluff checks are for.

[codeGlaze]

In fact, what happens when goblin A kills a T-Rex and wears a T-Rex hat, and then goblin B kills goblin A. Does goblin B wear the T-Rex hat, or a goblin hat (since the goblin was more powerful than the T-Rex)?

Obviously it's not a perfect system. There's always going to be that one goblin that lucks out and finds a dead/half-dead T-rex, kills it and lugs its body parts back.

That's what bluff checks are for.

Goblin-B wears a goblin hat that's wearing a T-Rex hat.... clearly.

[Prak]

In fact, what happens when goblin A kills a T-Rex and wears a T-Rex hat, and then goblin B kills goblin A. Does goblin B wear the T-Rex hat, or a goblin hat (since the goblin was more powerful than the T-Rex)?

Obviously it's not a perfect system. There's always going to be that one goblin that lucks out and finds a dead/half-dead T-rex, kills it and lugs its body parts back.

That's what bluff checks are for.

Goblin-B wears a goblin hat that's wearing a T-Rex hat.... clearly.

This. There are totally goblins walking around with what look like band hats of severed heads.

Alternatively...



Edit: Also, just think of all the weird awesome hats that could exist in D&D.

Mindflayer bonnets
Beholder bowlers
Hydra jester hats
Roper top hats
Preserved Aboleths floating in giant aquariums magically enchanted to float just above the goblin's hat.

Of course, in a setting which uses these rules, goblins should probably have something like Bardic Knowledge, but purely for identifying monsters, and probably a bonus in Craft (Haberdashery)

[Koumei]

Both Touhou and Team Fortress approve of this hatstacking.

[Mord]

This hat concept needs to be preserved somewhere for posterity. I'd say sup/tg/, but this is not /tg/...

[fectin]

Threads don't get pruned here. If you write it down, it pretty much IS saved for posterity. (very, very rarely threads do get scrubbed. It's usually not a surprise though).

[Username17]

Goblin King.



And I'm not going to believe anyone who says different.

I've been thinking about this, and I have come to the conclusion that he is actually a Dark One. Specifically, he's the head Dark Stalker, and his minions are Dark Creepers.





It's not that Jareth isn't in D&D, he totally is. It's that Jareth is a Dark One, and not a Goblin. That also explains why there are so few Dark Stalkers compared to Dark Creepers - they need to kidnap Human babies to make into Dark Stalkers.

-Username17

[Lago PARANOIA]

I'd just like to point out that appending 'King' or 'Queen' to any species that's not Human or Goomba instantly makes your title badass.

Fairy... meh. Queen of the Fairies? Hmm!
Goblin... feh. Goblin King? Yeah!
Koopa... lol. King Koopa? All right!

Also, we have all-stars like Godzilla: King of the Monsters, Witch-King, King Kong, and of course Tyrannosaurus Rex.

[shadzar]

so Jareth was the king of the goblins, but just not a goblin. um, that is easy to see form the movie anyway....

it is obvious he is a Mind-flayer, using illusionary psionics all the time to control his goblin thralls as well as everyone else. he just only has one tentacle and keeps it.... well just ask any girl who watches the movie just for him about his tentacle and why they wish they were Jennifer Connoley....

it isn't really unheard of in D&D for the king of a race to be of another race among those that respect power or are swayed with fear.

[OgreBattle]

King of King

[Dean]

Jesus?

[Koumei]

I'm not sure Jesus is the king of kings...

[erik]

Jesus Triple H Christ

[zeruslord]

Mord: not only are threads not pruned, but thread-necro is encouraged if you're actually going to be continuing the earlier conversation. There's a couple threads on the IMHO front page that were dropped for most of a year and got restarted.

[codeGlaze]

Mord: not only are threads not pruned, but thread-necro is encouraged if you're actually going to be continuing the earlier conversation. There's a couple threads on the IMHO front page that were dropped for most of a year and got restarted.

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