[Non-political] News that makes you Laugh/Cry/Both...

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:51 am

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/3 ... ce-Fiction

So, yeah. I hope somebody gets slapped upside the head for this, because otherwise I'm fucked.

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:16 am

"Writing science fiction while black" is apparently a crime now.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:28 am

Surgo wrote:"Writing science fiction while black" is apparently a crime now.

It's good to know that the brave cops are doing their best to defend us. I know I am safe on the road, because all the black people are arrested there, but I had previously been subject to the danger that black people might be publishing the books I read on the internet without being arrested for their heinous crimes.

hyzmarca · Post by **hyzmarca** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:40 am

Surgo wrote:"Writing science fiction while black" is apparently a crime now.

Actually it seems more like writing fiction about school shootings while a teacher.

This probably also applies to students.

hyzmarca · Post by **hyzmarca** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:47 am

Surgo wrote:"Writing science fiction while black" is apparently a crime now.

Actually it seems more like writing fiction about school shootings while a teacher.

This probably also applies to students.

Count Arioch the 28th · Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:10 am

I read excerpts of that guy's writing. He deserves to be locked up.

(facetious comment is facetious, of course).

Leress · Post by **Leress** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:49 am

Here are the two books:

http://www.amazon.com/Insurrectionist-K ... 0075CP2SG/

http://www.amazon.com/Liliths-Heir-K-Vo ... B00FUL3ZRY

Actually it seems more like writing fiction about school shootings while a teacher.

This is pretty accurate to what is happening, I don't think race had much to do with it, it just happens that he is black. Now these books were written a number of years, 3 for the first and 1 for the other, ago. So why now?

DSMatticus · Post by **DSMatticus** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:59 am

Probably because nobody knew about them until now, and clearly if you write about a massacre at a school of any sort in any tone for any reason with any level of (non-)connection to reality it is because you are a ticking timebomb.

Now, who do I call to report Stephen King for writing Carrie? You know, that famous novel about a school massacre that he wrote while working at a fucking high school?

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:25 am

I read most of the Punisher: MAX imprint. And they have shown, among other things, child slavery, human trafficking, the aftermath of a school shooting, and a few assassins with machine guns murdering every baby in a nursery on Christmas Eve to take out a mobster's newborn.

Why the fuck is Garth Ennis not arrested but this dude is?

erik · Post by **erik** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:10 am

Teachers and students are held to a more stupid standard. Not everywhere, but in enough places that one of these stories of dramatic overreach pops up every few months.

I like to think that most principals or board of education members and such aren't raging asshole morons, but as this story evidences, some are.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:20 am

Ancient History wrote:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/3 ... ce-Fiction

So, yeah. I hope somebody gets slapped upside the head for this, because otherwise I'm fucked.

Well, it might bost his sales...
or not looking at the price for the ebooks.

ishy · Post by **ishy** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:59 am

hyzmarca wrote:
Surgo wrote:"Writing science fiction while black" is apparently a crime now.
Actually it seems more like writing fiction about school shootings while a teacher.

This probably also applies to students.

Nah, he wrote the book in question 3 years ago. He was not a teach when he wrote it.

Post by **fbmf** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:35 am

DSMatticus wrote:Probably because nobody knew about them until now, and clearly if you write about a massacre at a school of any sort in any tone for any reason with any level of (non-)connection to reality it is because you are a ticking timebomb.

Now, who do I call to report Stephen King for writing Carrie? You know, that famous novel about a school massacre that he wrote while working at a fucking high school?

He wrote RAGE, a novella about a high school student killing a teacher and taking a class hostage, while a senior in high school. Someone let the authorities know the evidence is piling up.

Game On,
fbmf

Wiseman · Post by **Wiseman** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:01 pm

It's definitely overreacting. When I was in high school one of the books we had to read was about a school shooting.

Occluded Sun · Post by **Occluded Sun** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:28 pm

fbmf wrote:He wrote RAGE, a novella about a high school student killing a teacher and taking a class hostage, while a senior in high school. Someone let the authorities know the evidence is piling up.

And he himself hasn't let the book be re-published. If you can find a used copy, keep it, because the thing will never see the light of day any other way. Authorial censorship - the least objectionable kind, but still disturbing.

Now if we could just persuade him not to let any of his more recent works go into print...

Chamomile · Post by **Chamomile** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:47 pm

Next up on the list of things that Occluded Sun has actually said: Advocating for censorship of an author by others immediately after condemning censorship of an author by himself.

Occluded Sun · Post by **Occluded Sun** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:06 pm

Do your parents know you're accessing the Internet without their supervision, Chamomile?

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:09 pm

I think they are both idiots. But goddam if I don't feel like shit having to take Chamomile's side in an argument.

Occluded Sun · Post by **Occluded Sun** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:21 pm

Stephen King's recent works have been startlingly unoriginal. He's been reduced to making sequels to his past great works. Evaluations are subjective, but quite a lot of people think the latest novels aren't particularly good and regret that King wanted them published.

Yet despite that, some thoughtful and insightful person still finds a way to interpret a joke I make about this situation as an argument in favor of censorship. What a very remarkable demonstration of wit and reading comprehension.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:56 am

Update claims it wasn't the books, but a 4-page letter

While that's initially encouraging, especially as someone who was close enough to have to stay away from windows during John Schick's highly forewarned rampage -- the paucity of details has me disturbed that writing is apparently still enough to get you locked up without a trial......

Post by **fbmf** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:46 am

Occluded Sun wrote:
fbmf wrote:He wrote RAGE, a novella about a high school student killing a teacher and taking a class hostage, while a senior in high school. Someone let the authorities know the evidence is piling up.
And he himself hasn't let the book be re-published. If you can find a used copy, keep it, because the thing will never see the light of day any other way. Authorial censorship - the least objectionable kind, but still disturbing.

Now if we could just persuade him not to let any of his more recent works go into print...

It's for sale on Amazon. I just looked. You have to buy it as the collection known as The Bachmann Books, but it's there.

Game On,
fbmf

Occluded Sun · Post by **Occluded Sun** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:41 pm

Wow. I know for a fact that he had decided not to let it be reprinted. When did he change his mind, I wonder?

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:47 pm

Occluded Sun wrote:Wow. I know for a fact that he had decided not to let it be reprinted. When did he change his mind, I wonder?

He didn't change his mind. RAGE went out of print in 1997, and all subsequent editions of the Bachmann Books don't include it. However, since they are physical objects that don't spontaneously combust when they go out of print, you can still purchase pre-1997 copies on Amazon.

-Username17

Occluded Sun · Post by **Occluded Sun** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:37 pm

Used copies. Check.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:59 pm

Occluded Sun wrote:Used copies. Check.

Or just unsold copies. Amazon has 11 new copies of the 1986 printing of The Bachman Books on sale for like 60 bucks. It's just fundamentally harder to memory hole a physical book than it is other forms of media.

-Username17