How many of those characters also throw Chemical bombs? Zero of them. There are lots of mad scientist characters, lots of evil chemists, but so far the only character that both takes super serum to hulk out and throws bombs at people is The Green Goblin. Seriously. That's the only guy. And you have named zero other people who fit that bill.FatR wrote:Any number of Jekill/Hide ripoffs; Bane or, in fact, any character who depends on some sort of non-permanent super serum for competence; Dr. Moreau, Herbert West and in fact a good deal of mad scientists
This is a joke, right? Characters who make illusions and also mind control people are so fucking common that I don't have to dip into Marvel comics at all. I mean, I can pull out characters like Mastermind or White Queen, but it's not necessary. You got shit like the old Disney Sleeping Beauty cartoon where Princess Aurora is shown illusionary crap and then hypnotized to walk over and poke a spindle. Popular culture simply does not and never has made a solid distinction between making people see things and making people do things with mind magic.FatR wrote:Second, "straight mind control" and "deceiving opponent's senses" are indeed distinctly different niches (indeed the former tends to make the latter redundant) and I don't think it anyone would naturally come to conclusion that the latter should make the former easier.
You'd be on firmer ground complaining that the Beguiler both has mind magic and also makes clouds. On the grounds that there are lots of mentalist character who can't make clouds of mist. But of course, when you start talking about fairy magic, there are lots and lots of characters who both beguile people with sorcery and also make opaque mists show up.
This is not the hill you want to die on. The Alchemist is actually a really weird character, and the Beguiler has a very broad and very common theme. You made a dumb boast and you were called on it. Slink away with your tail between your legs or eat your fucking crow.
-Username17