The term you're looking from is "nostalgia", which is just mind caulk for,things you grew up with.original trilogy has a strange sort of magic where everything came together.
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Force Awakens lacks any single WOW! sequence, which is something that even the worst prequels had - Phantom Menace has the big fight scene with Darth Maul, Attack of the Clones has the clone troopers arriving on Geonosis, Revenge of the Sith has a couple.FatR wrote:Except for shit blowing up. I'm an undiscerning movie-goer, and shit blowing up was sufficient to make me sit through every Transformer film, but here I cannot help but be disappointed.
It's more than just nostalgia. The original trilogy was wildly popular when it came out and remained wildly popular for decades without abatement. There is a reason for that. It hits the goldilocks zone where everything is simultaneously incredibly cool but believable. And it was original. It hit all the classic hero's journey beats in new and interesting ways.fbmf wrote:The term you're looking from is "nostalgia", which is just mind caulk for,things you grew up with.original trilogy has a strange sort of magic where everything came together.
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I think it was like that to start but Finn did manage to injure him further.Whipstitch wrote:I dunno, I felt it was fairly clear that Kylo was fucking with him.
This Message brought to you by Tussock is always wrong about everything.tussock wrote:They've always done that. Luke learning to use the guns on the Falcon, Luke learning to fly an X-Wing, Luke learning to be a targeting computer, etc, etc, etc. Han just randomly finding Luke in a white-out blizzard, how hard can it be? Han suddenly navigating asteroid fields, "don't tell me the odds." Luke and Leia need to learn to pilot Speeder bikes? No
probs.
The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?
Kaelik wrote: 2) Han isn't force sensitive, so... how is Han doing things proof that force sensitives are good at things?
DSMatticus wrote:It's not just that everything you say is stupid, but that they are Gordian knots of stupid that leave me completely bewildered as to where to even begin. After hearing you speak Alexander the Great would stab you and triumphantly declare the puzzle solved.
That was one of the things I thought was stupid though I wouldn't say it made a difference to my enjoyment in any way. The timing in Empire doesn't make sense either and I don't fucking care.Red_Rob wrote:Just saw the film. It has convinced me of 3 things:
[*] JJ Abraham has no idea about scale, distance, speed, numbers or time. Every time anything relating to these things came up it jarred me out of the film a little because it was so obviously, painfully wrong. I get that Star Wars is Space Opera and you aren't supposed to sweat the small stuff, but come on! Seeing other star systems from a planet's surface, instantaneously seeing things happening Light Years away, travelling at Light Speed towards a planet and stopping just in time, travelling around a world-sized battlestation fighting and escaping all in 15 minutes, it was like no=one on the script team had ever been inside a classroom!
Actually, weirdly enough, a bit before the prequels they created a Lucas Arts council who started coordinating the EU, so the entire Vong Series, Legacy, and Fate all feel relatively cohesive with each other, very much not a clusterfuck. There was some sort of retconning in Fate, and the Cong series abruptly switched Jacen and Anakin because they were trying to convince people watching the prequels to start reading the books, and they were worried that the character being named Anakin would confuse people, but for the most part the "recent" EU since about 1999 was the least clusterfuck the EU has ever been.ckafrica wrote:I'm glad they ditched EU. It had become a convoluted mess by the late 90s. I can't imagine what kind of a clusterfuck it's become in the 20 years since. Had they kept all the fanboys would be doing now is muling about how they contracted a minor fact from some who-gives-a-shit novel that 99.9% of the audience never even new existed. Better to simply ditch it and open the narrative space. People who were going to bitch were going to do so regardless. Why hamstring themselves?
The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?
DSMatticus wrote:It's not just that everything you say is stupid, but that they are Gordian knots of stupid that leave me completely bewildered as to where to even begin. After hearing you speak Alexander the Great would stab you and triumphantly declare the puzzle solved.
I stopped reading the novels around 1997. Last ones i remember are the correllian trilogy at which point I decided there was better reading material to be found. I'm vaguely aware of the fact that the story went on beyond that with the children of Han and Leia and whatnot but I ran out of fucks to give.Kaelik wrote: Actually, weirdly enough, a bit before the prequels they created a Lucas Arts council who started coordinating the EU, so the entire Vong Series, Legacy, and Fate all feel relatively cohesive with each other, very much not a clusterfuck. There was some sort of retconning in Fate, and the Cong series abruptly switched Jacen and Anakin because they were trying to convince people watching the prequels to start reading the books, and they were worried that the character being named Anakin would confuse people, but for the most part the "recent" EU since about 1999 was the least clusterfuck the EU has ever been.
Which is not the same thing as saying it was good. But it was organized.
For the record the EU was not just the novels. It was novels, and comics, and video games, and even occasional bits of promotional material (like the pre-release Jedi History bits from TOR). It was all one continuity - which is why Kyle Katarn showed up in video games and then became a regular book character, and why Jaden Korr has two novels specifically about him. Disney smashed all of it, including everything that happened before RotJ and even before the Prequels.Kaelik wrote:To me, they had to abandon the EU for reasons (people whining about Game of Thrones Spoilers for seasons of the show covering 10 year old books, the fact that Harrison Ford doesn't want to fucking be in these movies, comes to mine), but aside from them having to, they definitely should have because books are not the same fucking media as movies.
Well, there's already a new EU. It's TCW and Rebels, and a rapidly growing number of novels and short stories (I think there's around a dozen so far) and, importantly it's being produced by the same people. So material from the 'Legends' alternate universe keeps being pulled across in giant swipes by James Luceno, and Paul S. Kemp, and David Filoni and a bunch of other people. Also, because TCW is still canon, and because it contained appearances by characters and things who had already been in other EU materials prior to appearing in that series (Asajj Ventress, the planet Onderon, the Lady Luck. Nightsisters of Dathomir, too many things to count) there's a huge amount of crossover.Kaelik wrote:Which is why it is all the more perplexing that they decided to mash together EU characters and names into what I believe are analogs of the same characters (we'll see more fully when Rey's backstory is revealed).
The First Order controls some backwater Rim territories that were never part of the Republic or the Empire, but which were sympathetic to the Empire, and so provided a safe haven for war criminals to flee to in the wake of the Empire's defeat.FrankTrollman wrote: Without getting into any of the things that happen later in the movie, I'm just going to harp on a bit from the opening story crawl. Why the fuckity fuck are the good guys called "The Resistance?" They work for the Republic. Explicitly. That is not a name that people who work for the legitimate authority have. You're only the resistance if you aren't in possession of the capital. You can be the resistance if you're the rightful government if and only if some assholes have conquered you and your government is in exile.
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Those aren't actually EU. Those are just normal U.Mechalich wrote: Well, there's already a new EU. It's TCW and Rebels, and a rapidly growing number of novels and short stories (I think there's around a dozen so far) and, importantly it's being produced by the same people.