Immigration for Americans to other countries
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Immigration for Americans to other countries
A friend of mine is considering fleeing to Australia, that got me thinking about where good places to run away to would be and what the requirements are.
For Australia I've heard it's basically $400 and having $5000 in the bank.
https://www.migrationexpert.com.au/australian_visa/
For Australia I've heard it's basically $400 and having $5000 in the bank.
https://www.migrationexpert.com.au/australian_visa/
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Re: Immigration for Americans to other countries
I'll take a stab at your requirements. You're looking for a majority white, liberal, western democracy. That rules out South Africa, Zimbabwe or Hong Kong. Anywhere on the Asian or African continents, really.OgreBattle wrote:A friend of mine is considering fleeing to Australia, that got me thinking about where good places to run away to would be and what the requirements are.
South America and Central America is out of the question. That leaves Europe, Australia, North America and Antarctica. You obviously wont be going to Mexico, amirite?
re: Australia. Fuck off, we're full.
As for Europe, you'll probably want to avoid Turkey and anywhere east of Poland, with the communists.
You need useful skills or money to live in Antarctica, I'll assume you have neither.
So that leave you with western Europe and Canada. Europe is having something of an immigration crisis at the moment, so your only real choice is Canada. A fucking leaf. Stay out of Nova Scotia.
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I don't think many countries accept barely functioning people with severe mental illnesses so it looks like I'm riding this one out. I'm kind of disinclined to leave the country anyway, I'm terrible at learning new languages and I'm not leaving my cat and spiders behind.
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My skills are being an experienced, yet mediocre, manufacturing engineer. Oh, and a 5 year old graduate education in energy engineering. To be honest, I'm essentially without value to any other country I might consider moving to.
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Put a greatsword a maul and a greataxe in a room and ask them to take their pick
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EXPLOSIVE RUNES!
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Apparently it takes 6 years to become a Canadian citizen and may have to pay US taxes still? Either way, I am tied to the US for personal reasons until around the next election time, so I can't really contemplate moving to Canada.
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Ha! I am clearly the most valueless person here. I only had some community college experience before dropping out, and the only work experience I've had is just over a year working at Dunkin' Donuts! I don't think they even have those outside the States! I think the only country I'm qualified to work at is Alaska.My skills are being an experienced, yet mediocre, manufacturing engineer. Oh, and a 5 year old graduate education in energy engineering. To be honest, I'm essentially without value to any other country I might consider moving to.
As an aside, most of my coworkers at Dunkins are Hispanic, black, or Muslim (some from India and some from Bangladesh). In fact, I'm one of literally three white dudes in a workforce of about thirty to forty. I honestly have no idea what will happen to them now in a Trump dictatorship.
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There may be a silver lining to all of this...
The Republicans have been extremely successful in part because of the redistricting that occurred in 2010. We have 4 years of a Republican President and at least 2 years of a Republican Senate/House. Over the last several years they've been obstructionist but haven't actually DONE anything. That's going to change. Now, as long as there is still a country in 2020, a massive Democratic wave would allow a 'reset' to balance Republican/Democratic positions going forward.
The Republicans have been extremely successful in part because of the redistricting that occurred in 2010. We have 4 years of a Republican President and at least 2 years of a Republican Senate/House. Over the last several years they've been obstructionist but haven't actually DONE anything. That's going to change. Now, as long as there is still a country in 2020, a massive Democratic wave would allow a 'reset' to balance Republican/Democratic positions going forward.
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I agree, I think this is a possibility. Especially seeing how liberal our younger generation is. People who will be voting in the 2020 election are 14-17 right now. If Republican policies fall apart, and the gerrymandering isn't aggressive enough to cut out Democratic votes, we may get a surge in liberal policy.deaddmwalking wrote:There may be a silver lining to all of this...
The Republicans have been extremely successful in part because of the redistricting that occurred in 2010. We have 4 years of a Republican President and at least 2 years of a Republican Senate/House. Over the last several years they've been obstructionist but haven't actually DONE anything. That's going to change. Now, as long as there is still a country in 2020, a massive Democratic wave would allow a 'reset' to balance Republican/Democratic positions going forward.
The Supreme Court is still going to be conservative until at least 2030, but one can hope for the future.
Also, this should probably be in the Election 2016 thread.
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DSMatticus wrote:Again, look at this fucking map you moron. Take your finger and trace each country's coast, then trace its claim line. Even you - and I say that as someone who could not think less of your intelligence - should be able to tell that one of these things is not like the other.
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Re: Immigration for Americans to other countries
This... this is a joke, right? You are discussing your options for escaping a government you call a "white supremacy dictatorship" and you immediately say black and latino countries are off the table? Please tell me you're trolling these other idiots and you're not actually that hypocritically stupid.Winnah wrote:I'll take a stab at your requirements. You're looking for a majority white, liberal, western democracy. That rules out South Africa, Zimbabwe or Hong Kong. Anywhere on the Asian or African continents, really.OgreBattle wrote:A friend of mine is considering fleeing to Australia, that got me thinking about where good places to run away to would be and what the requirements are.
A Man In Black wrote:I do not want people to feel like they can never get rid of their Guisarme or else they can't cast Evard's Swarm Of Black Tentacleguisarmes.
Voss wrote:Which is pretty classic WW bullshit, really. Suck people in and then announce that everyone was a dogfucker all along.
Maybe they think that white nations are more likely to have English speakers? The language barrier is going to be hard
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Put a greatsword a maul and a greataxe in a room and ask them to take their pick
How do you confuse a barbarian?
Put a greatsword a maul and a greataxe in a room and ask them to take their pick
EXPLOSIVE RUNES!
Since they used that to rule out South Africa, where English is the primary language, I'm going to say nope, Winnah just a racist fuck.virgil wrote:Maybe they think that white nations are more likely to have English speakers? The language barrier is going to be hard
The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?
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It feels like every election people talk about moving to another country. So few actually do. Ripping up your life, leaving your friends and family behind, adapting to a new cultural and political environment - it will turn your life upside down. You have to really want it.
If you do, then I wouldn't immigrate in haste. Take some time to learn about the cultural and political environment in the country. Visit in-person, preferrably for several weeks. Put your ducks in a row - immigration requirements and paperwork, moving plans, housing, work. Begin to build a network of people you know there, even if it's just through the internet. Let the idea marinate for a few months, and if you're still as gung ho about it as you were just after the election, then go for it.
If you do, then I wouldn't immigrate in haste. Take some time to learn about the cultural and political environment in the country. Visit in-person, preferrably for several weeks. Put your ducks in a row - immigration requirements and paperwork, moving plans, housing, work. Begin to build a network of people you know there, even if it's just through the internet. Let the idea marinate for a few months, and if you're still as gung ho about it as you were just after the election, then go for it.