aelryinth;17273742 wrote:Once again, the Troll proves he has nothing to contribute but a bad set of poorly thought out arguments based on something other then gaming experience. Move along, nothing to see, just another Sunic&Co. username. Every argument above fails with even the tiniest bit of analysis, has been proven, and the arguments don't have a basis.
Just because something is 'equal to something a mage gets at high level', doesn't make it, mages, or anything in between non-broken and balanced. The simple fact half-dragons are elective to play and a hard choice makes them a balanced choice, not a no-brainer, and feral doesn't even come CLOSE to being balanced in that respect. If you like the benefits of being feral, then stack them over levels where the benefits are appropriate, because +1 CR might be appropriate for a monster you are going to meet for a couple combat rounds, but +1 LA is waaaaaay too cheap for the benefits provided.
==Aelryinth
Lern2debate. Scintillating Scales is a second level spell any dragon with anywhere near 40 natural armor will have, and turns that natural armor into deflection. Which means your argument against Wraithstrike fails.
As stated, normal AC is total garbage anyways. Don't complain when sanitation services do their job. Fail.
Half dragons are garbage because you have to screw yourself to play them, even when compared to the other trash that is melee class levels. Which means you're pulling that ROLEplaying fallacy on the CO boards. Way to go turtle boy. If you are going to troll at least tailor your approach to your audience instead of just hitting ctrl + v for the 9,001th time. Fail.
Edit: MS solves a mystery of the universe. Awesome. Yes, this is sarcasm.
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Roy wrote:
Edit: Lololol, the mods actually do something right this time.
WHAT?
Where?!?
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
Roy wrote:
Edit: Lololol, the mods actually do something right this time.
WHAT?
Where?!?
They screwed with Faelryinth's post, but only edited others for continuity. Usually they leave his trolling bullshit alone and fuck with everyone else's posts, even if said posts are not in violation of the rules.
Psychic Robot wrote:Hrum. I thought wraithstrike was abusive, although similar effects can be had with Combat Brute or whatever.
It is abusive. It pretty much is just a straight up kick to the nuts of any fighter class, since it makes attack bonuses as a whole just not matter anymore.
Now, there are certainly more broken spells out there, like shivering touch, but wraithstrike is still a really horribly broken spell. Of course, the whole touch attack mechanic is busted as it is.
Psychic Robot wrote:Hrum. I thought wraithstrike was abusive, although similar effects can be had with Combat Brute or whatever.
It is abusive. It pretty much is just a straight up kick to the nuts of any fighter class, since it makes attack bonuses as a whole just not matter anymore.
Now, there are certainly more broken spells out there, like shivering touch, but wraithstrike is still a really horribly broken spell. Of course, the whole touch attack mechanic is busted as it is.
Power Attack. Still might or might not hit. Especially if they're utilizing means to boost their touch AC.
Psychic Robot wrote:Hrum. I thought wraithstrike was abusive, although similar effects can be had with Combat Brute or whatever.
It is abusive. It pretty much is just a straight up kick to the nuts of any fighter class, since it makes attack bonuses as a whole just not matter anymore.
Now, there are certainly more broken spells out there, like shivering touch, but wraithstrike is still a really horribly broken spell. Of course, the whole touch attack mechanic is busted as it is.
Again, what pure arcane caster wastes slots on Wraithstrike? It's a wand spell primarily, it helps melee. It isn't like it was on the Druid or Cleric spell list, that might be abusive.
Akula wrote:Again, what pure arcane caster wastes slots on Wraithstrike? It's a wand spell primarily, it helps melee. It isn't like it was on the Druid or Cleric spell list, that might be abusive.
Cleric with the Magic domain (use spell-trigger items as a wizard) + wand of wraithstrike.
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Akula wrote:Again, what pure arcane caster wastes slots on Wraithstrike? It's a wand spell primarily, it helps melee. It isn't like it was on the Druid or Cleric spell list, that might be abusive.
Cleric with the Magic domain (use spell-trigger items as a wizard) + wand of wraithstrike.
In Tome Stuff...
Ghost Cut Technique.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
Akula wrote:Again, what pure arcane caster wastes slots on Wraithstrike? It's a wand spell primarily, it helps melee. It isn't like it was on the Druid or Cleric spell list, that might be abusive.
Cleric with the Magic domain (use spell-trigger items as a wizard) + wand of wraithstrike.
Oh, teh noes. Dey be savin skill points on de fightarses. This is seriously the most broken thing about the cleric. Nerf Nauws plz. Saying that someone can buy it and use it really is pretty generic under the 3.5 D&D ruleset.
Roy wrote:
Edit: Lololol, the mods actually do something right this time.
WHAT?
Where?!?
They screwed with Faelryinth's post, but only edited others for continuity. Usually they leave his trolling bullshit alone and fuck with everyone else's posts, even if said posts are not in violation of the rules.
If a mod deletes or edits a post, put it back the way it was beforehand. No one will say shit to you.
In this moment, I am Ur-phoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my int score.
Although the only post I've had edited I left alone. The mod was probably right that my assertion that the person I was arguing with rapes little boys was probably too much.
In this moment, I am Ur-phoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my int score.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
Me: "You're an idiot if you think that giving druids an intelligent pet somehow takes away from the paladin."
Frost: "OMG THIS TYPE OF POSTING IS NOT ALLOWED. PR, you've had lots of warnings, blah-blah-blah, this is your final warning."
Me: "Actually, Joshua...
Remember that time you banned me and hid my post for pointing out how you were being a hypocrite? Remember that time you bitched at Squirreloid for his inappropriate language and you refused to tell him what he had said that was against the rules? And I've given lots of constructive solutions to help Pathfinder, but they've been blown off (see 'Arcane Strike should suck because Weapon Specialization is a Pathfinder power benchmark')."
Gary: "OMG BALEETED."
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Count Arioch wrote:I'm not sure how discussions on whether PR is a terrible person or not is on-topic.
Ant wrote:
Chamomile wrote:Ant, what do we do about Psychic Robot?
What is it about being an admin or moderator that gives people a feeling that their above criticism, while doing things that are very, very criticizable?
The only admins I've seen who don't have the Douche Admin Syndrome are the ones here and the ones on the Goodman Games forums.
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
The ones on Elliquiy are also cool. Largely they stay out of arguments unless it gets into personal attacks, and they accept criticism just like everyone else. Granted, they don't allow the kind of insults we fling about here, but they won't tolerate that for or from anyone - you can't call someone a meth-addicted fuckwit who deserves to be shot, even if the person in question is someone the mods don't like and were arguing with.
I'm impressed with the impartiality.
Whereas here, I'm sure if we managed to think up a reason to criticise fbmf, he'd take it in stride, or just fling an insult back and move on.
I do recall he flipped out on Sig when he purposely screwed up tags. Really, really, surprised me...
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
Wasn't that during the thread on tags, when someone else had already done that joke, there was at least one thread that was a total mess he was trying to untangle, and we were all pretty fed up with bad tags?
