What various Ninja (actual name) classes are there for 3e?

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Wed May 13, 2009 4:24 am

What various Ninja (actual name) classes are there for 3e?

Just wondering how much this might help my monk friend. I don't have OA or Rokugon books.

-Crissa

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Wed May 13, 2009 4:58 am

Oriental Adventures has:
-Ninja Spy

Sword and Fist had:
-Ninja of the Crescent Moon

that's all I've got for now... as far as actually having ninja in the name anyway.

Orion · Post by **Orion** » Wed May 13, 2009 5:14 am

Complete Adventurer had a Ninja which like a shitty rogue/monk hybrid.

D20 Rokugan has a ninja that couldn't wear armor, but got fighter BAB and rogue sneak attack.

SunTzuWarmaster · Post by **SunTzuWarmaster** » Wed May 13, 2009 9:36 am

I have always considered Ninja, Scout, and Rogue in the same class of "sneaky guy who stabs things".

Anyways, this will aid you in your quest:
www.crystalkeep.com/d20/rules/DnD3.5Ind ... s-Base.pdf

Murtak · Post by **Murtak** » Wed May 13, 2009 11:13 am

What does your friend want to do that couldn't be done with a straight Rogue?

Amra · Post by **Amra** » Wed May 13, 2009 12:27 pm

Murtak wrote:What does your friend want to do that couldn't be done with a straight Rogue?

Gay sex?

RandomCasualty2 · Post by **RandomCasualty2** » Wed May 13, 2009 4:38 pm

There's a shadow sun ninja in ToB.

Meikle641 · Post by **Meikle641** » Wed May 13, 2009 5:06 pm

I think the Legend of Five Rings camapign thing has a ninja as well. Gets a mad speed bonus from Con and stuff. That's about all I know.

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Wed May 13, 2009 9:29 pm

Murtak wrote:What does your friend want to do that couldn't be done with a straight Rogue?

Support a high Wis stat, cast weird spells. Anything that doesn't involve him rolling dice, which he sucks at. We use a computer to roll, and so far, he's gotten an average of 7.5 on the d20.

-Crissa

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Wed May 13, 2009 9:50 pm

At that point, you should just be a cleric. Choose the right domain and you can sneak around.

-Username17

Orion · Post by **Orion** » Wed May 13, 2009 11:14 pm

Man, Shadow Sun Ninjas were my personal perfect storm of epically sweet concept clashing with hideously underpowered and confusing mechanics.

Thymos · Post by **Thymos** » Thu May 14, 2009 12:46 am

7.5 is an awefully... small in the digits. How many times has he rolled it?

Murtak · Post by **Murtak** » Thu May 14, 2009 7:13 am

Crissa wrote:
Murtak wrote:What does your friend want to do that couldn't be done with a straight Rogue?
Support a high Wis stat, cast weird spells. Anything that doesn't involve him rolling dice, which he sucks at. We use a computer to roll, and so far, he's gotten an average of 7.5 on the d20.
-Crissa

Straight Druid. Ignoring the animal companion and wildshaping, using only core spells:

1 - Secret Ninja Language (Druidic), Entangle, Jump, Longstrider, Obscuring Mist, Pass without Trace
2 - Woodland Stride
3 - Trackless Step, Fire Trap, Flame Blade, Spider Climb
4 -
5 - Poison
6 -
7 - Air Walk, Spike Stones
8 -
9 - Venom Immunity
10 -

Then you add spells like Forestfold, Bite of the Wereanimaloftheday or Briar Web. You get to do Kung Fu (unarmed attacks augmented with Magic Fang). Wildshape into a combat form (if desired a simple illusion will let you look human while pouncing the crap out of people), wildshape into a bird to scout, wildshape into a weasel to sneak. And on top of that you can have your personal panther or just an army of trained 1HD animals, ready to your bidding ("go and deliver these acorns, my little friend").

Take some feat to get what skills you want to add as class skills and you should be set. Flavor with a monk's belt if desired.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Thu May 14, 2009 7:29 am

Use Kelpstrand.

Call it a grappling hook that you tie people up with.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:33 am

Just take the Travel and Trickery domains and you should be good to go. Now for some retarded reason no core deity has this both of these combinations (unless you include Dragonlance, which I don't) even though should be an extremely fucking obvious portfolio combination. But whatever.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Thu May 14, 2009 9:52 am

If your DM will let you, you could always take the Spell domain, too. Risky, but awesome, especially since you can plunder the wizard spell from Spell Compendium that gives you a fighter bonus feat every time that you cast it.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu May 14, 2009 1:20 pm

That I can think of:

Ninja (base, CompAdv)
Ninja (base, Rokugan)
Ninja (base, BESM d20)
Shadow Sun Ninja (PrCl, Weeaboo Fightan Magic)
Ninja Spy (PrCl, Weeaboo Adventures)*
Ninja of the Crescent Moon (PrCl, Old 3.0 Book)*
Ninja of Gax (PrCl, Dungeonomicon)

*Or the other way round

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Thu May 14, 2009 5:00 pm

Koumei wrote:That I can think of:

Ninja (base, CompAdv)
Ninja (base, Rokugan)
Ninja (base, BESM d20)
Shadow Sun Ninja (PrCl, Weeaboo Fightan Magic)
Ninja Spy (PrCl, Weeaboo Adventures)*
Ninja of the Crescent Moon (PrCl, Old 3.0 Book)*
Ninja of Gax (PrCl, Dungeonomicon)

*Or the other way round

Huh, not quite as many as there were in the 2e Complete Ninja's Handbook.

mean_liar · Post by **mean_liar** » Thu May 14, 2009 6:24 pm

Murtak wrote:What does your friend want to do that couldn't be done with a straight Rogue?

Crissa wrote:Support a high Wis stat, cast weird spells.-Crissa

Ninja 1/Divine Caster X/Shadowbane Stalker?

Crissa · Post by **Crissa** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:12 pm

Well, he also wanted to be a melee monk with you know, no weapons, but that wasn't working out.

He's really liked the suggestions, guys. Thanks.

-Crissa