Xenologer, your argument was idiotic when you made it before, and it's still idiotic. And you're making Kaelik and I agree on something, which is dangerous and wrong.
No matter how many times you want to try to draw the equivalent, NO, the people arguing that there is nothing wrong with intelligent wolves (garou) fucking non-intelligent wolves are NOT arguing that it is perfectly okay to fuck unconscious human beings, or give people roofies, or whatever. So knock it the fuck off, because it's lazy and insulting.
I am well aware of how often rape of drunk or otherwise incapacitated women occurs, and it's fucking disgusting and wrong. But it is wrong because
you are doing something horrible to a person. How this has anything to do with dogfucking is beyond me. If you can't tell the difference between a human being who has been robbed of their consciousness and self-determination and a creature that
never had those things to begin with, I can't explain it to you.
Finally,
YES, this
is a cute abstract question...because no one is talking about doing this in real life. We are talking about fictional werewolves having sex with fictional wolves. It's abstract in the same fashion that we can argue about the fantasy morality of face-stabbing goblins and taking their stuff...even though being stabbed and robbed are things that happen to real people in the real world.
Virgil wrote:Because we eat animals, it's OK to screw them? That's messed up. At minimum, there's the fact that there's a slight difference between eating something and having sex with it; and it's part of our nature to eat animals.
Why is it messed up? I'm failing to comprehend, and maybe you can explain it to me, how allowing a wolf to put his penis in you is somehow so much more horrible than killing that wolf and eating his corpse. Because I'm not seeing it.
As for "part of our nature"...for a lupus garou, having sex with wolves has been part of his/her nature for his/her entire life. When they're in lupus form, they literally
are a wolf. So how is wolves fucking wolves not "part of their nature"?
I am judging the philosophies and decisions you have presented in this thread. The ones I have seen look bad, and also appear to be the fruit of a poisonous tree that has produced only madness and will continue to produce only madness.
--AngelFromAnotherPin
believe in one hand and shit in the other and see which ones fills up quicker. it will be the one you are full of, shit.
--Shadzar