If Blackheart wasn't made somewhat unobscure by MSH/MSHvSF, he would have gone down in infamy as the titular guy Spider-man MADE A DEAL WITH TO ABO--*darted*Darth Rabbit wrote: Shuma Gorath and Blackheart were the only really obscure Marvel characters they used that weren't just palette swaps until MvC3) where they can.
Moments when a piece of entertainment completely lost you.
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Lago PARANOIA
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Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
I thought that was Mephistoctulukytobalogorgales.
Whereas Blackheart is that guy's son.
Whereas Blackheart is that guy's son.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Oh. Right. 
Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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Ok, so I saw Looper last night. Lots of spoilers below.
So the actual time-travel assassination plot is still kind of retarded. Ok, fine, you need to send people to the past so you can kill them due to "advanced forensic techniques." But,
a)Why do you need an assassin on the other end? Can't you put a bomb on them, or time travel them into the furnace in the future, or something?
b)Why the HELL would you have your assassin kill THEMSELVES? I can buy young men committing to being killed in 30 years. I can't buy anyone saying "let's have them shoot themselves, this is the best idea." Seriously, there's too big a risk of future them being able to communicate with present them. Which happens twice, and apparently often enough there's a term for it.
c)Why were the future Mafia enforcers who killed Joe's wife carrying guns? This is a future where they supposedly can't kill anybody without being instantly tracked down by magical forensic tagging, and a setting where 30 years before they had magical instant knockout thingies. They aren't there to kill Old Joe, just to bring him back. So that guy who shot the wife should have been instantly jumped by cop legions. If the Rainmaker changed this somehow, then why don't they kill Future Joe then and there and not start this whole thing?
Yeah, plot holes are bad.
So the actual time-travel assassination plot is still kind of retarded. Ok, fine, you need to send people to the past so you can kill them due to "advanced forensic techniques." But,
a)Why do you need an assassin on the other end? Can't you put a bomb on them, or time travel them into the furnace in the future, or something?
b)Why the HELL would you have your assassin kill THEMSELVES? I can buy young men committing to being killed in 30 years. I can't buy anyone saying "let's have them shoot themselves, this is the best idea." Seriously, there's too big a risk of future them being able to communicate with present them. Which happens twice, and apparently often enough there's a term for it.
c)Why were the future Mafia enforcers who killed Joe's wife carrying guns? This is a future where they supposedly can't kill anybody without being instantly tracked down by magical forensic tagging, and a setting where 30 years before they had magical instant knockout thingies. They aren't there to kill Old Joe, just to bring him back. So that guy who shot the wife should have been instantly jumped by cop legions. If the Rainmaker changed this somehow, then why don't they kill Future Joe then and there and not start this whole thing?
Yeah, plot holes are bad.
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Yeah, the premise makes no sense whatsoever, and the entire first half of the movie is just an excuse to let the set-designers build a really neat looking cyberpunk dystopia.CapnTthePirateG wrote:Ok, so I saw Looper last night. Lots of spoilers below.
Then in the second half it transitions into what I think was originally a fairly clever Terminator-plot rewrite script before Hollywood decided to fill it full of stupid. The idea of the more sympathetic assassin from the future come to kill Sara's kid makes that plot more interesting. Also the subtle way that Bruce Willis lets himself be seen by the security cameras for the sole purpose of being captured later was way way way too smart for the rest of the movie.
"But transportation issues are social-justice issues. The toll of bad transit policies and worse infrastructure—trains and buses that don’t run well and badly serve low-income neighborhoods, vehicular traffic that pollutes the environment and endangers the lives of cyclists and pedestrians—is borne disproportionately by black and brown communities."
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Because they're idiots.CapnTthePirateG wrote: a)Why do you need an assassin on the other end? Can't you put a bomb on them, or time travel them into the furnace in the future, or something?
Because they're idiots. It probably seemed elegant to the guy who came up with the idea.b)Why the HELL would you have your assassin kill THEMSELVES? I can buy young men committing to being killed in 30 years. I can't buy anyone saying "let's have them shoot themselves, this is the best idea." Seriously, there's too big a risk of future them being able to communicate with present them. Which happens twice, and apparently often enough there's a term for it.
The Rainmaker had nuclear-scale telekenisis and really didn't give a fuck if he was caught or not, what with being able to levels cities with his mind and all. As to why he doesn't just kill Old Joe, Old Joe killed his mom OTL. If he doesn't send Joe back then he massively grandfather paradoxes himself with absolutely unpredictable results.c)Why were the future Mafia enforcers who killed Joe's wife carrying guns? This is a future where they supposedly can't kill anybody without being instantly tracked down by magical forensic tagging, and a setting where 30 years before they had magical instant knockout thingies. They aren't there to kill Old Joe, just to bring him back. So that guy who shot the wife should have been instantly jumped by cop legions. If the Rainmaker changed this somehow, then why don't they kill Future Joe then and there and not start this whole thing?
Yeah, plot holes are bad.
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What is wrong with you? I remember when I saw that movie. I literally couldn't stay in the room past the part where:Parthenon wrote:I really love Looper as long as I don't try to think about it too hard.
Bruce Willis reveals that they shot his girlfriend in da future.
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Except that when we see him use said telekinesis, he has trouble defecting bullets. Where are you getting nuclear-scale from, he seems to have a lot o minions who WOULD care about getting caught.hyzmarca wrote: The Rainmaker had nuclear-scale telekenisis and really didn't give a fuck if he was caught or not, what with being able to levels cities with his mind and all.
OgreBattle wrote:"And thus the denizens learned that hating Shadzar was the only thing they had in common, and with him gone they turned their venom upon each other"
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Do tell.Whipstitch wrote:It never had me to begin with, but I gotta say, The Following is impressively bad.
The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?
That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves.
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Spoilers ahead, obviously.
First off, I'd like to stress that I would never self-identify as a nitpicker. For example, I couldn't possibly give less shits about the plot holes or coincidences in The Dark Knight or Silence of the Lambs because those movies did a good job of establishing atmosphere so I was more than willing to meet them halfway. With that said, holy shit does The Following depend on idiot balls being handed out like easter candy. None of the police can defend themselves, full stop, and at one point former FBI agent/serial killer thwarter Kevin Bacon decides it's a good idea to just run off alone and unarmed to where he expects the killer to be. They even have a lampshade moment where he reaches to the holster he didn't bring and makes an "Oh, shucks, I guess I should have brought a gun" face. Mind you, this isn't a dead teenager movie scenario. There is never a scene in which Kevin Bacon's crazy serial killer story is rejected by the authorities, leaving him to fend for himself. He was specifically brought in by the police and FBI for this case because he stopped this same killer before and was in constant communication with armed personnel before he decides his unarmed jackassery is a good idea and it's kinda distracting.
At another point one of the killer's accomplices escapes via Scooby Doo level trickery--he wears an Edgar Allen Poe mask and stands by other Poe masks before jumping out and going all boogie boogie on Kevin Bacon. It's a genuinely confusing scene because they cut to commercials right after Poe Mask jumps out and when the show returns Kevin Bacon is fine and with other police because apparently Poe Mask just ran away without getting caught. It's super pointless because as far as I can tell Poe Mask doesn't even really figure into the rest of the episode in any meaningful way. Speaking of Poe, it bears mentioning that the serial killer mastermind is an English professor* who is apparently obsessed with the poor dead bastard--apparently nobody in the writer's room thought that pick was too obvious. It's doubly hilarious because it leads to scenes where "nevermore" is written on the walls in blood with a Marilyn Manson song as the sonic backdrop.** The whole thing is extra sad because Kevin Bacon appears to actually be trying and seems like he could be fairly compelling if he was working with a script that wasn't total dogshit.
*He's also English by nation of origin, but that didn't bother me. Partly because the show never depends on his identity being a mystery at any point but mostly because "All villains should have British accents whenever possible" might as well be the 28th Amendment at this point.
**They also featured a Deftones track and a Massive Attack remix. I recognize all that shit from my "Fuck you Dad, I'm an atheist now and Catholic private school can't do anything about it!!" phase. It only took them two episodes to hit a '90s angst hat trick!
First off, I'd like to stress that I would never self-identify as a nitpicker. For example, I couldn't possibly give less shits about the plot holes or coincidences in The Dark Knight or Silence of the Lambs because those movies did a good job of establishing atmosphere so I was more than willing to meet them halfway. With that said, holy shit does The Following depend on idiot balls being handed out like easter candy. None of the police can defend themselves, full stop, and at one point former FBI agent/serial killer thwarter Kevin Bacon decides it's a good idea to just run off alone and unarmed to where he expects the killer to be. They even have a lampshade moment where he reaches to the holster he didn't bring and makes an "Oh, shucks, I guess I should have brought a gun" face. Mind you, this isn't a dead teenager movie scenario. There is never a scene in which Kevin Bacon's crazy serial killer story is rejected by the authorities, leaving him to fend for himself. He was specifically brought in by the police and FBI for this case because he stopped this same killer before and was in constant communication with armed personnel before he decides his unarmed jackassery is a good idea and it's kinda distracting.
At another point one of the killer's accomplices escapes via Scooby Doo level trickery--he wears an Edgar Allen Poe mask and stands by other Poe masks before jumping out and going all boogie boogie on Kevin Bacon. It's a genuinely confusing scene because they cut to commercials right after Poe Mask jumps out and when the show returns Kevin Bacon is fine and with other police because apparently Poe Mask just ran away without getting caught. It's super pointless because as far as I can tell Poe Mask doesn't even really figure into the rest of the episode in any meaningful way. Speaking of Poe, it bears mentioning that the serial killer mastermind is an English professor* who is apparently obsessed with the poor dead bastard--apparently nobody in the writer's room thought that pick was too obvious. It's doubly hilarious because it leads to scenes where "nevermore" is written on the walls in blood with a Marilyn Manson song as the sonic backdrop.** The whole thing is extra sad because Kevin Bacon appears to actually be trying and seems like he could be fairly compelling if he was working with a script that wasn't total dogshit.
*He's also English by nation of origin, but that didn't bother me. Partly because the show never depends on his identity being a mystery at any point but mostly because "All villains should have British accents whenever possible" might as well be the 28th Amendment at this point.
**They also featured a Deftones track and a Massive Attack remix. I recognize all that shit from my "Fuck you Dad, I'm an atheist now and Catholic private school can't do anything about it!!" phase. It only took them two episodes to hit a '90s angst hat trick!
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I was surprisingly "meh" about Elementary. It's less Sherlock Holmes, and more Generic Crime Drama - which would be fine, except it's supposed to be Sherlock Fucking Holmes.
Sherlock put it to shame (Season 3 starts filming next month!).
Sherlock put it to shame (Season 3 starts filming next month!).
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On that subject, I have to say I was disappointed by the final episode of Sherlock's season 2. Sherlock spends all of his time dancing to Moriarty's tune and basically makes no effort at all to outmaneuver his opponent. So he spends an entire episode numbly circling the drain and letting Moriarty do whatever he wants. Also, he's too dumb to figure out that ~8 bytes of information could not possibly interact with any modern computer system in any meaningful way, something I figured out literally the second it was revealed that Moriarty's finger-tapping was supposed to communicate the computer code in binary (granted, I thought it was just the writers being sloppy, but I doubt Sherlock's aware he's in a TV show). I was kind of expecting some kind of actual conflict in the big epic final conflict, not just a death spiral.
I'm going into a movie completely disinterested. We (the school paper) got an invitation to a screening of Beautiful Creatures. I said I'd review it, because it was an opportunity to ask an attractive acquaintance out.
Basically, it's a movie adaptation of a series of YA supernatural romance (ie, jumping on the bandwagon of Twilight). Instead of vampires, it focuses on casters, each of which has a unique talent. The protagonist family is cursed such that children are "claimed by the Light or the Dark on their 16th birthday.
That alone might be ok. Even with a preponderance of southern accents, the least attractive accent in America.
It gets worse though, when you bring in the "romance" aspect. If a mortal kisses a caster (or an incubus, yes, apparently they have incubi in this thing), they get shocked. So of course there's going to be a bunch of stupid wangst about how the protagonist chick and her boy toy can't be together because he'll die.
God, this is going to be fucking stupid.
Basically, it's a movie adaptation of a series of YA supernatural romance (ie, jumping on the bandwagon of Twilight). Instead of vampires, it focuses on casters, each of which has a unique talent. The protagonist family is cursed such that children are "claimed by the Light or the Dark on their 16th birthday.
That alone might be ok. Even with a preponderance of southern accents, the least attractive accent in America.
It gets worse though, when you bring in the "romance" aspect. If a mortal kisses a caster (or an incubus, yes, apparently they have incubi in this thing), they get shocked. So of course there's going to be a bunch of stupid wangst about how the protagonist chick and her boy toy can't be together because he'll die.
God, this is going to be fucking stupid.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
Proper electrical grounding time!
I'm sorry, did my electrical engineering get in the way of angst?
I'm sorry, did my electrical engineering get in the way of angst?
Was this supposed to be a program or just information? 8 bytes can be a decent amount of info if used right; you could theoretically represent 16 DNA base pairs, for instance.Chamomile wrote:Also, he's too dumb to figure out that ~8 bytes of information could not possibly interact with any modern computer system in any meaningful way
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DSMatticus wrote:It's not just that everything you say is stupid, but that they are Gordian knots of stupid that leave me completely bewildered as to where to even begin. After hearing you speak Alexander the Great would stab you and triumphantly declare the puzzle solved.
The idea is that
Honestly, I did think it was kinda weak, but a lot of the character development in that episode was pretty good, given what had happened in the previous episodes.
it represents some program that Moriarty can use to break into basically any computer system, which it appears he's done after doing a bunch of Dastardly Things, when instead he just bribed and threatened people.
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Oh man that sounds hilarious.Prak_Anima wrote:I'm going into a movie completely disinterested. We (the school paper) got an invitation to a screening of Beautiful Creatures. I said I'd review it, because it was an opportunity to ask an attractive acquaintance out.
Basically, it's a movie adaptation of a series of YA supernatural romance (ie, jumping on the bandwagon of Twilight). Instead of vampires, it focuses on casters, each of which has a unique talent. The protagonist family is cursed such that children are "claimed by the Light or the Dark on their 16th birthday.
That alone might be ok. Even with a preponderance of southern accents, the least attractive accent in America.
It gets worse though, when you bring in the "romance" aspect. If a mortal kisses a caster (or an incubus, yes, apparently they have incubi in this thing), they get shocked. So of course there's going to be a bunch of stupid wangst about how the protagonist chick and her boy toy can't be together because he'll die.
God, this is going to be fucking stupid.
Please tell me about it.
DSMatticus wrote:Again, look at this fucking map you moron. Take your finger and trace each country's coast, then trace its claim line. Even you - and I say that as someone who could not think less of your intelligence - should be able to tell that one of these things is not like the other.
Kaelik wrote:I invented saying mean things about Tussock.
You guys remember that the entire purpose of that stunt was advertising, right?Korgan0 wrote:The idea is thatHonestly, I did think it was kinda weak, but a lot of the character development in that episode was pretty good, given what had happened in the previous episodes.
it represents some program that Moriarty can use to break into basically any computer system, which it appears he's done after doing a bunch of Dastardly Things, when instead he just bribed and threatened people.
Well, that sound you may have heard last night at about 9:30 pacific time was me eating headgear wrapped in a print out of my previous post. It was actually surprisingly good. The landscape destroying magic was somewhat misleading, though a lot of magic does actually get thrown around (at least, a comparatively large amount). Notably, the movie did not include the "Casters kill mortals through intimate contact" bit, or mention incubi or succubi at all. Also, it used a variety of southern accents, and kept the unattractive forms to the characters you're going to hate anyway (mindless fundamentalist christian douchebags). Oh, and the mundane love interest throws off what is essentially a three (maybe four) caster Cooperative Hold Person with The Power of Love. I'm kind of a sucker for that shit....You Lost Me wrote:Oh man that sounds hilarious.Prak_Anima wrote:I'm going into a movie completely disinterested. We (the school paper) got an invitation to a screening of Beautiful Creatures. I said I'd review it, because it was an opportunity to ask an attractive acquaintance out.
Basically, it's a movie adaptation of a series of YA supernatural romance (ie, jumping on the bandwagon of Twilight). Instead of vampires, it focuses on casters, each of which has a unique talent. The protagonist family is cursed such that children are "claimed by the Light or the Dark on their 16th birthday.
That alone might be ok. Even with a preponderance of southern accents, the least attractive accent in America.
It gets worse though, when you bring in the "romance" aspect. If a mortal kisses a caster (or an incubus, yes, apparently they have incubi in this thing), they get shocked. So of course there's going to be a bunch of stupid wangst about how the protagonist chick and her boy toy can't be together because he'll die.
God, this is going to be fucking stupid.
Please tell me about it.
If you want a more involved review, I just posted it for my paper.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.
Winnah wrote:No, No. 'Prak' is actually a Thri Kreen impersonating a human and roleplaying himself as a D&D character. All hail our hidden insect overlords.
FrankTrollman wrote:In Soviet Russia, cosmic horror is the default state.
You should gain sanity for finding out that the problems of a region are because there are fucking monsters there.
I had more or less the same experience with Real Steel.
I thought it was going to be retarded as hell.
Then I watched it and turns out it was better than I thought it'd be.
Possibly, going in with low expectations is a better mindset.
I thought it was going to be retarded as hell.
Then I watched it and turns out it was better than I thought it'd be.
Possibly, going in with low expectations is a better mindset.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!