Annoying Questions I'd Like Answered...

virgil · Post by **virgil** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:30 am

The Vigilante wrote:
Prak_Anima wrote:How sure are you, virgil? When I posed the question on Facebook, I got this:
Facebook wrote:Density = m/V = 1kg /48 in^3, thus the volume of a 9-ton spheroid mass would be
V = m/d = (9 tons * 907 kg/ton)/ (1/48 kg/in^3) = 390,000 in^3
First of all, using imperial measurements is retarded, learn metric.

48 cubic inches = 787 cm3 roughly, which gives us a density of 1,27 g/cm3. I assume you use US tons, which are equivalent to 907kg roughly, or 907 000g. Since V = M/D, this gives us a volume of 714 173 cm3 for a one US ton boulder, or 6 427 557 cm3 for a 9 ton boulder ; which translates to roughly 227 cubic feet. This would make it a 7.5 feet high boulder.

I didn't pose the question on FB, I just did the math, roughly as Vigilante posed. If you extrapolate from there, 390,000 in^3 is the volume of a 45 inch radius sphere, or 7.5' diameter.

So yes, everyone is right

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:34 am

The ton measurement is used in the source, Back in Crack, by Gwar, hence the use here. My friend and I wound up debating just how ludicrous such a crack rock would be tonight.

virgil wrote:
The Vigilante wrote:
Prak_Anima wrote:How sure are you, virgil? When I posed the question on Facebook, I got this:
First of all, using imperial measurements is retarded, learn metric.

48 cubic inches = 787 cm3 roughly, which gives us a density of 1,27 g/cm3. I assume you use US tons, which are equivalent to 907kg roughly, or 907 000g. Since V = M/D, this gives us a volume of 714 173 cm3 for a one US ton boulder, or 6 427 557 cm3 for a 9 ton boulder ; which translates to roughly 227 cubic feet. This would make it a 7.5 feet high boulder.
I didn't pose the question on FB, I just did the math, roughly as Vigilante posed.

I'm not particularly strong in math, but I have several friends who are in school for physics, astrophysics, etc.

If you extrapolate from there, 390,000 in^3 is the volume of a 45 inch radius sphere, or 7.5' diameter.

So yes, everyone is right

...except the friend with whom I was debating who somehow wound up with a 72' diameter sphere.

erik · Post by **erik** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:35 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:
...except the friend with whom I was debating who somehow wound up with a 72' diameter sphere.

It sounds like they fouled a 10's place or conversion somewhere in the works, but damn, that number should not have passed any sort of snort test.

Usually when eyeballing weight/size of something I try to peg it to a density that I am roughly familiar with just to see if it appears in the right neighborhood.

The rock density is 127% of water... and can you imagine how friggin large a 144 diameter sphere is, and how much stinkin water that would be? After arriving at that answer one should step back for a moment and consider where something went wrong.

One liter is one kg. and that's 44272 cubic meters or 44 million kilograms of water (mind you this being a lower density). 18 olympic swimming pools.

Over 48,800 tons (and nearly 62,000 tons when you change it into crack rather than water). Screw the pooch on a decimal when converting volumes and you can mess up pretty hard by the end.

If you want to wow your math friends, you should play with wolfram alpha until you can do these kind of calculations quickly. That's how I often do my math when I can grab the internet since I am known to eff up a decimal place or otherwise make 'stupid mistakes' myself from time to time (oddly the best SAT score I got was when I forgot to bring a calculator, but still my nerdy friends taunted me for only getting a 740math since that made me the runt of the litter).

[edit: removed bad decimal, see! and a stupid mistake, but all better now, probably]

Sir Neil · Post by **Sir Neil** » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:10 pm

virgil wrote:That's for a 1 ton boulder. A 9 ton boulder is 7.5 feet tall, exactly.

Yeah. I'm not sure where the 907 came from, since I put 9 tons into the converter and got back 8164. I must have divided again for some reason.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:17 am

Sir Neil wrote:
virgil wrote:That's for a 1 ton boulder. A 9 ton boulder is 7.5 feet tall, exactly.
Yeah. I'm not sure where the 907 came from, since I put 9 tons into the converter and got back 8164. I must have divided again for some reason.

I think a short ton is 907.2 kg according to Wolframalpha. Maybe you somehow channeled that.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:16 am

Is the Mohrg in D&D actually based on anything specific in folklore, or is it a creature that was made up for the game?

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:02 am

More or less, it seems someone at WotC needed a cool undead type thingy, and just they just smashed their hand on the keyboard, and came up with... Mohrg. If anything, it's probably based off of those zombie-parasite-plague things in movies.

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:21 am

Why is the infamous Laughing scene from Final fantasy X used as an example of bad voice acting? Tidus just learned that his father is Cthulhu and is destroying the world, and he was asked to force himself to laugh by a chick he wants to bone.

Afterwards, the other party members are staring at them, commenting that they thought they had "lost their minds".

THE SCENE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FORCED AND AWKWARD, AND THE OTHER CHARACTERS COMMENT ON IT!

Of all the examples of bad voice acting (for example, most of the time Yuna opens her mouth), why do they pick the one that was bad on purpose for story purposes? That was one of the scenes that made sense...

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:38 am

Because it wasn't bad in the sense of "badly done", but bad in the sense of "painful to sit through". The fact that, taken out of context, it seems badly done is just icing, the real issue is that it's the worst scene to have to actually sit through, and that's in a game that has Wakka in it.

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:46 am

I can understand that logic. I mostly enjoyed FFX, but I dislike Luca. There's Drownball, then that scene, then finally you get to walk on the long path of Spira.

Leress · Post by **Leress** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:47 am

Ted the Flayer wrote:Why is the infamous Laughing scene from Final fantasy X used as an example of bad voice acting? Tidus just learned that his father is Cthulhu and is destroying the world, and he was asked to force himself to laugh by a chick he wants to bone.

Because of the internet, and since a lot more people played FFX than Deep Fear it gets saddled with the bad voice acting label even though bad voice direction is more appropriate for most of the game.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:52 am

I didn't really like FFX, but I liked X2 - as much as the spheregrid was cool, it's hard to know if you're level appropriate or whatever. And the class-changing from V was awesome, made even better by magical girl transformations. Add to that the fact that they were all Flanderised into a bunch of derps, the game was a hilarious light-hearted Charlies' Angels thing, the lesbian minigame...

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:02 am

Don't forget Brother's incest fetish.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:52 pm

double post

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:53 pm

Koumei wrote: the lesbian minigame...

What? Expand upon this. I haven't played FFX yet. But lesbians make anything better. It might even make me come faster to this game*.

*Edit: I hadn't originally intended the double entendre. But it was too late and I had already posted it. So I'll let it live for the sake of hilarity.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:07 pm

I, too am interested in what you humans call this "lesbian" minigame.

I'm more a fan of Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest than I am of FF, but I'm willing to try any game that has lesbians, immolating monks, or abhorant moral standards.

Sir Neil · Post by **Sir Neil** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:13 pm

About 20 hours in you use lesbian battleship to make Yuna massage a female enemy to sooth her to sleep so Yuna can rob her blind. The enemy is vocal in her enjoyment each time you do a good job mashing buttons. So to speak.

It is on Youtube, of course.

Edit2: Leress has the right of it.

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:08 pm

Let's not forget the optional hot spring scene.

There's a way to complete a certain mission where at the end, the girls strip to their bikinis to enjoy a hot spring. Rikku very blatantly starts ogling the other girls' bodies, at which point they grab her. Unfortunately, the scene ends there, much to the disappointment of my boner...

Also, lots of bare female asscheeks in the game. Which I approve of whole-heartedly...

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:20 pm

Ted the Flayer wrote:Let's not forget the optional hot spring scene.

There's a way to complete a certain mission where at the end, the girls strip to their bikinis to enjoy a hot spring. Rikku very blatantly starts ogling the other girls' bodies, at which point they grab her. Unfortunately, the scene ends there, much to the disappointment of my boner...

That's just not fair...

Leress · Post by **Leress** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:01 pm

Sir Neil wrote:About 20 hours in you use an extended QTE to make Yuna massage a female enemy to sooth her to sleep so Yuna can rob her blind. The enemy is vocal in her enjoyment each time you do a good job mashing buttons. So to speak.

It is on Youtube, of course.

Edit: Huh. It is less of a QTE than I remembered.

I like to call it lesbian battleship.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:26 am

Yeah, Lesbian Battleship.

Also, although you only need Scan Level 1, upgrade it to level 3 anyway. Here are the advantages offered:
[*]You can Scan your own allies
[*]You can rotate and zoom the camera

Works particularly well on the Ultimate-Form Rikku, riding her mechagator. I admit that I have no excuses here, I was over 20 when the game came out.

Also, Ergeiz or somesuch (I don't speak Nazi) was a pretty cool fighting game (with bonus action adventure). You could play as Tifa and her two friends. Or fight against her (I recommend using the character with a spanking attack). Suplexes + short skirts. Or you could just, if you relied on materia too much in FF7, beat the hell out of Yuffie for hours on end.

Obviously the main selling point of that game was "You can play as Sephiroth. You already want it, don't you?"

Sir Neil · Post by **Sir Neil** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:31 am

Eirgehiz, or some such?

Leress wrote: I like to call it lesbian battleship.

Hell yes.

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:41 am

Koumei wrote:Yeah, Lesbian Battleship.

Also, although you only need Scan Level 1, upgrade it to level 3 anyway. Here are the advantages offered:
[*]You can Scan your own allies
[*]You can rotate and zoom the camera

Works particularly well on the Ultimate-Form Rikku, riding her mechagator. I admit that I have no excuses here, I was over 20 when the game came out.

I learned to do that one-handed.

The place I live in when that game came out the age of consent was 15 anyway. I apologize for nothing.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:53 am

No, what I mean is "I was too old to be enjoying zooming up Rikku's latex-covered ass crack when I could simply look at actual porn whenever I wanted."

But yeah, the characters are Flanderised so hilariously, it's awesome. When I played games, or certain friends did, we'd all sit around and read the voices out (for older games) and pretend they were derps - so in FF7, Hojo was a furry with a ridiculous French accent, and don't get me started on the entire cast of Dynasty Warriors.

So FFX2 saved us the trouble and did it for us.

Ted the Flayer · Post by **Ted the Flayer** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:27 am

At that point, I didn't quite grasp the magnitude of the amount and variety of porn that existed on the internet despite being aware that porn existed, also I kept fucking up the computer looking at it. My partner at the time could care less if I looked at porn all day if I wanted to, but Gawd help me if I broke our computer and she had to fix it!

I defend Yuna's character flanderization. She was raised to be slaughtered by an apocalypse death cult. I could imagine that doesn't lead to one being a well-rounded person. I know I derped out when I first got to a position where I wasn't under someone's constant control. And Brother didn't have a lot of lines in the first won, he could have been a derpy pervert for all we know.

Rikku? Rikku was smart in FFX. She derped WAY the fuck out.