Election 2016

nockermensch · Post by **nockermensch** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:43 am

RUSH LIMBAUGH wrote:You know what the magic word, the only thing that matters in American sexual mores today is? One thing. You can do anything, the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left.

Holy Poe's Law, Batman.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:09 am

So now former PM of Australia (I am so glad about the word former there, shame about his successor) Tony Abbott has come out in support of Trump.

Putin supporting Trump is probably a bigger warning sign in general, but to a lot of Australians, this is the actual nail in the coffin. Even people who get stiffies at the idea of deporting brown people (and that's like half the population) would have second thoughts just based on the association there.

Hiram McDaniels · Post by **Hiram McDaniels** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:20 am

RUSH LIMBAUGH wrote:You know what the magic word, the only thing that matters in American sexual mores today is? One thing. You can do anything, the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left.

Ummm...aren't the "rape police" just...you know...the police?

Uh-Oh...I broke into someone else's home and started stealing their crap...here come the burglary police! *rolls eyes*

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:32 am

Hiram McDaniels wrote:Uh-Oh...I broke into someone else's home and started stealing their crap...here come the burglary police! *rolls eyes*

I think the established term is law police.

Chamomile · Post by **Chamomile** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:51 am

I don't normally read things I know will be poorly thought out and stupid. I'm glad I read Scott Adams' latest post, though, since it contained him saying, approximately one week ago, that Bill and Hillary Clinton were about to have the worst week of their lives due to Trump retaliation. Has there been any Trump retaliation?

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:18 am

Chamomile wrote:I don't normally read things I know will be poorly thought out and stupid. I'm glad I read Scott Adams' latest post, though, since it contained him saying, approximately one week ago, that Bill and Hillary Clinton were about to have the worst week of their lives due to Trump retaliation. Has there been any Trump retaliation?

Well, he trotted out a bunch of women who had been paid money to make outlandish accusations against Bill Clinton in the nineties and he went on a deranged tirade about how the Clintons were part of a zionist conspiracy to destroy US sovereignty. Just because none of those blows landed doesn't mean he wasn't swinging.

-Username17

tussock · Post by **tussock** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:41 am

nockermensch wrote:Holy Poe's Law, Batman.

No wonder they don't believe in climate change: things are never allowed to change!

MGuy · Post by **MGuy** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:56 am

So quick question about Trump. Exactly how many court cases has he actually had leveled against him on actual Sexual abuse/harassment? I've had my FB flooded with a bunch of accusations of sexual abuse alleged to be done by Trump but when I tried to find court cases I believe I can only actually find 3. 1 a few months ago, 1 in 1997 from Jill, and possibly a 3rd from one of his ex wives. I'm trying to figure out just how many times he's actually gotten away with doing this kind of thing, after being reported to the the authorities, without actually being punished.

sendaz · Post by **sendaz** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:34 am

You will probably have a hard time pinning down a lot of those as they are often buried in other class action lawsuits, especially where employees of his are concerned.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:03 am

And then any settlements out of court with an NDA, or cases dropped because the accuser couldn't afford to keep at them...

Not to mention, and I don't know how true this is, one of his favorites MOs for 'business' is to hire some small company to do a cracking lot of work, then not pay them because they can't afford to sue him.

So yeah. I feel like I would kick money into a "Sue Donald Trump" fund just to see what came of it.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:10 am

Hiram McDaniels wrote:
RUSH LIMBAUGH wrote:You know what the magic word, the only thing that matters in American sexual mores today is? One thing. You can do anything, the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent. If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left.
Ummm...aren't the "rape police" just...you know...the police?

Uh-Oh...I broke into someone else's home and started stealing their crap...here come the burglary police! *rolls eyes*

That has been a common response to his quotes, and sure, in any sane world, the rape police are just the regular police prosecuting you for rape or sexual assault when you do things without consent. But on the other hand, Rush Limbaugh's preferences for the real police are sort of more on line with reality than our's, since his preference is for the police to ignore all crimes of rape and sexual assault so they can focus more on arresting and shooting black people.... and that's pretty much what the real world looks like.

maglag · Post by **maglag** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:35 pm

It seems like Hillary Clinton is actually a Robot Witch Overlady of Hell!

Meaning she would be the most awesome president ever.

"Miss President, somebody's interfering with our interests!"
"Fetch me my demon plasma sword, I'll teleport in to deal with them personally."

Or at least make a great manga plot.

sendaz · Post by **sendaz** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:48 pm

I would read that.

Besides Bill would ensure plenty of fan service.

Neurosis · Post by **Neurosis** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:12 pm

Trump shooting himself in the face repeatedly is entertaining to watch, make no mistake.

However the suspicious timing of all of these rape allegations makes it clear that this was a last-ditch contingency that the Deep State had in its pocket to prevent Trump from winning. And that they fucking played those pocket aces. Sorry if this sounds conspiritard adjacent--I haven't been sleeping much.

I'm not even saying clown meat orange hitler isn't a racist or a rapist or a racist/rapist. I'm just saying these allegations are obviously being deployed strategically by someone much smarter and better informed than HRC.

I wish we could have gotten Bernie in the race. I am pretty sure he has never grabbed a pussy in his life...without being asked nicely to first, at least. And even then, that shit had better be kosher.

maglag wrote:It seems like Hillary Clinton is actually a Robot Witch Overlady of Hell!

Meaning she would be the most awesome president ever.

"Miss President, somebody's interfering with our interests!"
"Fetch me my demon plasma sword, I'll teleport in to deal with them personally."

Or at least make a great manga plot.

There is a Champions villain that is pretty much exactly this.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:44 pm

Neurosis wrote:Trump shooting himself in the face repeatedly is entertaining to watch, make no mistake.

However the suspicious timing of all of these rape allegations makes it clear that this was a last-ditch contingency that the Deep State had in its pocket to prevent Trump from winning. And that they fucking played those pocket aces. Sorry if this sounds conspiritard adjacent--I haven't been sleeping much.

I'm not even saying clown meat orange hitler isn't a racist or a rapist or a racist/rapist. I'm just saying these allegations are obviously being deployed strategically by someone much smarter and better informed than HRC.

You are an idiot on several levels in this post.

Firstly, the basic level, you don't think Hillary Clinton is capable of coming up with the idea of holding off on releasing bad news about Trump until right before the election? I mean, Clinton isn't doing that, and we know that for many many reasons, but the idea that you don't think Clinton could have thought of that idea shows just how delusional you are.

2) Yeah, those suspiciously timed releases? Most of them have been out there for years. Specifically two of them came forward months before now, when Trump won the nomination. There were even news articles about it. But no one cared. Because when women claim to be sexually assaulted, no one believes them. Then someone released hot fucking mic footage of Donald Trump bragging about how he sexually assaults women, and then people were like "Hey, maybe when people say things about Trump, they aren't lying, and he did it." And since then, the vast majority of all cases are ones where the accusation (or admission by Donald Trump) was already in the public domain, and had been for years, but everyone just ignored it, and only after his admission on camera, does anyone now actually go looking for things.

For example, that line from Trump about 12 year olds, it's on an episode of Howard Stern, do you think no one listened the Howard Stern interviews of Trump? Of course not, but no one cared about it when it was only about pedophilia.

The thing where Ivanka tells Mrs. Teen USA pageant runners that "Yeah he does that." in response to them complaining about how Trump keeps walking in on the contestants when they are changing? She didn't say that yesterday. She said it years ago. It's just only now that people are putting it in context.

This is not "a coordinated assault of rape allegations" it's

a) Hey maybe all those past rape allegations aren't lies.
b) "Hey, while you guys are talking about it so much, just thought I'd mention that he did it to me too"

Bill Cosby went from zero allegations anyone knew about to 32 that everyone knew about in 3 months. You know why? Because powerful men get away with terrible shit, and even the public domain ones get ignored, and then, when the floodgates open, it turns out there was a goddam flood behind it.

Do you think that the Cosby allegations were a suspiciously timed assault by a conspiracy?

EDIT: Here is an article from May: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/po ... .html?_r=0

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:10 pm

Very little of the Trump allegations are new. Very little of the things Trump has been saying, or that people have been saying about Trump, are new. Probably what's more important, very little of these allegations matter to Trump's base. Republican women are still voting for Trump.

The Media as a whole have made the mistake this election in trying to treat this like a normal election. Hell, they made that mistake last election. But we're not looking at two equal sides where both groups are equally wrong about things, or lie an equal amount of the time, or just suffer differences of opinion. We're talking about a system where the Republican politicians - all of them - have sold out and bought in to a policy based on nativism, lies, and conspiracy theories.

They don't care that Trump was divorced, or even if he actually assaulted women. They don't care if Trump hasn't paid taxes, or villainizes his opponent, or sounds like a complete idiot. They only listen to what they want to hear - and they've been trained to do that. High-minded Christian principles be damned, Donald Trump is their candidate, and they're going to support him.

sendaz · Post by **sendaz** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:18 pm

Neurosis wrote: And even then, that shit had better be kosher.

On a side note, you do know Bernie's wife is Catholic right?

TiaC · Post by **TiaC** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:04 pm

First, I thought this was good: http://www.trumpisnotateamplayer.com/

Kaelik wrote:Firstly, the basic level, you don't think Hillary Clinton is capable of coming up with the idea of holding off on releasing bad news about Trump until right before the election? I mean, Clinton isn't doing that, and we know that for many many reasons, but the idea that you don't think Clinton could have thought of that idea shows just how delusional you are.

I'm nearly certain the Clinton campaign has opposition research that they are holding off on in order to release right before the election. The fact that many women are coming forward now is not an example of this, but I find it likely that other things will be leaked at the worst moments for Trump.[/url]

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:18 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/15/politics/ ... index.html

Voss · Post by **Voss** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:36 pm

Ancient History wrote:. High-minded Christian principles be damned, Donald Trump is their candidate, and they're going to support him.

It bugs the shit out of me that the Post even has a section called 'Acts of Faith,' but this managed to surprise me a bit:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... andom_2_na

Crazy evangelical guy wrote:“Some may criticize me for not discovering this material earlier, and I think they are right,” he said. “I did not take the time to investigate earlier allegations in detail, and I now wish I had done so. If I had read or heard some of these materials earlier, I would not have written as positively as I did about Donald Trump.”

Hmmm, yes. But then research and evidence would need to have a place in the evangelical world.

But of course the links in the article demonstrate pretty well that this guy giving ground is basically a statistical quirk among Evangelicals:

‘Still the best candidate’: Some evangelicals still back Trump despite lewd video

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... ewd-video/

‘We’re all sinners': Jerry Falwell Jr defends Donald Trump after video of lewd remarks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... ideo-leak/
[quote="Falwell NOT GETTING IT]“We’re never going to have a perfect candidate unless Jesus Christ is on the ballot,” he said. “I’ve got a wife and a daughter, and nobody wants to hear their women talked about in that manner.”[/quote]

AH- I think you're being too damn kind in just calling it lies and conspiracy theories. And even high minded Christian ideals are pretty abhorrent, even if referred to sarcastically.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:49 pm

But Voss, what's wrong with Falwell wanting to protect his women. He didn't buy them at auction to let someone else grab that pussy.

http://the-toast.net/2016/04/18/father- ... daughters/

Voss · Post by **Voss** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:17 am

So... yeah.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37667924

6 days later and we are back to 'rigged election,' (the inevitable lawsuit is going to be painful) and some bonus crazy: she was on performance enhancing drugs, so Hillary needs to be tested before the next debate.
At least Vegas is the proper forum for this bullshit circus.

Yep. Cue up 'Proud to be 'Merican' and let's all have a sing along, get drunk and pelt the band with empty bottles.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:23 am

Voss wrote:So... yeah.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37667924

6 days later and we are back to 'rigged election,' (the inevitable lawsuit is going to be painful) and some bonus crazy: she was on performance enhancing drugs, so Hillary needs to be tested before the next debate.
At least Vegas is the proper forum for this bullshit circus.

Yep. Cue up 'Proud to be 'Merican' and let's all have a sing along, get drunk and pelt the band with empty bottles.

I'd love to see Donald Trump do a drug test, given how much he was sniffing during both debates...

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:40 am

Maxus wrote:
Voss wrote:So... yeah.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37667924

6 days later and we are back to 'rigged election,' (the inevitable lawsuit is going to be painful) and some bonus crazy: she was on performance enhancing drugs, so Hillary needs to be tested before the next debate.
At least Vegas is the proper forum for this bullshit circus.

Yep. Cue up 'Proud to be 'Merican' and let's all have a sing along, get drunk and pelt the band with empty bottles.
I'd love to see Donald Trump do a drug test, given how much he was sniffing during both debates...

Seriously. I've never seen someone trip over their own dick as much as Donald. However small or big his actual dick is, his metaphorical dick is out of some Doug Winger piece for as much as he trips over it.

edit: "#HillaryGropedMe" is trending on twitter.

*sigh*

I fucking hate conservatives...

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:34 pm

You literally cannot make this shit up: http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/16/media/d ... index.html