Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:06 pm
Look Longes, you vodka swilling fuckfence, if you want to have anyone see your posts as anything other than "NOTICE ME PUTIN-SENPAI~" you're going to have to at least link your sources.
It's from the same fucking wikipedia article Frank linked, you twat.Mask_De_H wrote:Look Longes, you vodka swilling fuckfence, if you want to have anyone see your posts as anything other than "NOTICE ME PUTIN-SENPAI~" you're going to have to at least link your sources.
The whole thing is based on the presumption that "telling it like it is" and "just speaking your mind" means honesty. Which is a pile of shit and the reason why con artists [like Trump] are so successful.phlapjackage wrote:Had a thought while reading all of this - the idea of "just speaking your mind" and "calling it like it is" has seemed to become a huge talking point for the right-wing. From Hannity to OReilly to now Trump. I guess it's ok for political commentators to speak their mind or whatever, but when did it become desirable for a politician to do this? Isn't that a huge part of a politicians reason for existance, like, to actually be diplomatic?
Case in point.AndreiChekov wrote:You are calling people racist for stating facts. Know what Trump said about black people? He said that their situation sucks. More crime, orphans and single mothers. How is that racist? Its not racist to point things out.
However, hasn't that polling been challenged on it's reliability?Longes wrote:I take it you are choosing to ignore the referendum and the opinion of crimeans on that referendum?FrankTrollman wrote:annexing lands belonging to other countries by force
Crimean public opinion wrote: A joint survey by American government agency Broadcasting Board of Governors and polling firm Gallup was taken during April 2014. It polled 500 residents of Crimea. The survey found that 82.8% of those polled believed that the results of the Crimean status referendum reflected the views of most Crimeans, whereas 6.7% said that it did not. 73.9% of those polled said that they thought that the annexation would have a positive impact on their lives, whereas 5.5% said that it would not. 13.6% said that they did not know.
A comprehensive poll released on 8 May 2014 by the Pew Research Centre surveyed Crimean opinions on the annexation. Despite international criticism of 16 March referendum on Crimean status, 91% of those Crimeans polled thought that the vote was free and fair, and 88% said that the Ukrainian government should recognise the results.
I'm not advocating this. I'm advocating limiting immigration because large numbers of people don't have too assimilate if they move together, and European culture really is the best. It involves things like equality for women, rape being illegal, and honour killings being illegal.Mask_De_H wrote:Muslims trying to conquer the world is propaganda fed by the far, far right; funnily enough both brown (Wahhabist militants) and white (honestly pick a member of the Western right at random at this point).
I pray that you are merely ignorant instead of toxic, so instead of yelling at you (Frank and Kaelik are better at that), I want to walk you through a hypothetical.
Think about it like this: whatever race/creed you are, AndreiChekov, imagine I said your kind were trying to conquer the world and rape our women. You, personally, probably couldn't find your own asshole with two hands and a map, but I'm sure your people have done something beyond the pale. Now I'm going to blame you and people like you for it, even if you happen to wear a slightly different hat that you can get killed for by your own "kind".
Unfair, isn't it?
You've gotten this upset when merely called out for being an ignorant shithead on the Internet; imagine how upsetting it would be if not just the Den, but a large subset of people thought that you and everyone like you were unruly, unkempt, violent, inhuman savages. Now imagine that, whether implicitly or explicitly, it was told that beating the shit out of you was not only accepted, but desired. If you fight back, you get beat harder or imprisoned or killed. If you die, people will say the world has been made a better place. If you are imprisoned, depending upon how we feel about your people, you will be tortured, put to slave labor, beat (possibly to death) and/or spend the rest of your natural life marked as an undesirable. If you make the news, you will be demonized or used as a statistic. If you don't, nobody will give a shit about you and the people who put you down or put you away will probably mock your plight. If you're lucky, you might be alive to hear it!
Think about this. Think as hard as you possibly fucking can on it. Reflect upon it, then your previous words.
I'm pretty sure most of Russian conflicts with "muslims" had a secular nature. Starting with Mongols who were shamans and buddhists and didn't give a shit about religion in Rus, and continuing with Ottomans who wanted Ukraine and Black Sea. Rights of Christians were a topic during Russian-Ottoman wars, but they hardly ever were a primary factor.AndreiChekov wrote:No, it is not fucking propaganda that Islam wants to conquer the world. In just 300 years after its start, it had conquered 2/3 of the Christian world. And they kept going after that. It used to be something commonly known. Russia fought hordes of muslim tartars so commonly throughout their history that you basically can't tell anyones life story without mentioning with war with the tartars they were in.
Wow.AndreiChekhov wrote:No, it is not fucking propaganda that Islam wants to conquer the world. In just 300 years after its start, it had conquered 2/3 of the Christian world. And they kept going after that. It used to be something commonly known. Russia fought hordes of muslim tartars so commonly throughout their history that you basically can't tell anyones life story without mentioning with war with the tartars they were in.
Since when is making shit up "pointing things out?" Here are things Donald Trump has said:AndreiChekov wrote:You are calling people racist for stating facts. Know what Trump said about black people? He said that their situation sucks. More crime, orphans and single mothers. How is that racist? Its not racist to point things out.
What the fuck? Putin flies bombers into European airspace just to remind them he can. Putin actually did bomb a covert US/UK military installation in Syria just so he could show up to the negotiating table with a "see, we'll fucking bomb your shit" card. Even the FBI - which just came out swinging for Trump, if you can't tell - has internally admitted that Russia is behind the hacks, and the only reason they didn't sign off on it publicly is because Comey thought doing so would influence the election. Putin is incredibly fucking aggressive, and worse, he is aggressive with other nuclear powers. Right now, Putin is the single most likely culprit for causing the actual apocalypse. That wasn't always the case, mind - if you'd asked me that sometime in the '00's, I'd have said China, what with their blatant attempts to simply absorb the nations around them by choking them out of the surrounding waters, but now Russia has pulled ahead by a considerable margin.AndreiChekov wrote:I don't like Putin because he is white, I like him because he is a non-aggressive nationalist.
No, no I did not miss the point. I corrected you, because what you said was retarded. Then I rebutted the correction, because I understand this shit and you don't.AndreiChekov wrote:As far as economics goes, DSMatticus completely missed the point of what I was saying. Tariffs on finished products do help the economy, tariffs on raw materials don't.
AndreiChekov wrote:My dislike for Islam comes from the fact that when they end up in Europe crime rates go up.
Yeah, fuck the Irish refuges! Wait, are we not still doing that? I'm sorry, I'm really bad at this racism thing. Which groups are we panicking about right now? I can't tell, because the arguments never fucking change no matter how many times they end up being wrong.AndreiChekov wrote:I'm not advocating this. I'm advocating limiting immigration because large numbers of people don't have too assimilate if they move together...
A woman is raped. She ends up pregnant, because it turns out the body doesn't have "ways to shut that whole thing down." Should we murder the innocent, crimeless "child" for the sins of its father or should we force the mother to carry her rapist's child to term?AndreiChekov wrote:As for abortion, well I also support the death penalty for murder, and if a woman dies while trying to murder her child she deserves it.
--I haven't even gotten a chance to respond to your first statements.AndreiChekov wrote:
As for blacks. What i think would help is them having more black owned businesses, and for BLM to be labelled the terrorist organization that it is.
I assume would want this when anyone rioted and/or looted. Since the way that you have written it, it makes seem like you only wanted it when blacks do it.And if there is rioting and looting call in the National Guard.
Wait, I'm confused. Looking at the props, 65 says "stores must put the money they get from reusable plastic bag sales into a fund for environmental purposes" and 67 says "the 2014 law should go into effect, and stores get to keep money from selling reusable bags"FrankTrollman wrote:67 is a measure to prevent grocery stores from giving out disposable plastic bags. 65 is a measure to make it more difficult for grocery stores to sell reusable bags. 65 is an attempt to undermine 67 and make it more difficult to implement. You should vote for 67 and not for 65, things are bad if 65 passes, as it gets really funky whether or not 67 passes at that point.
C'mon, man. BLM observers have noted that that the movement's leadership model is incredibly decentralized and built around local activism. It's not particularly comparable to earlier civil rights or black nationalist movements where national reach was often married to relatively strong centralized leadership organized by a few popular figures. Trying to crack down on people's freedom to assemble for the entire movement over a minority of people doing heinous shit is super dumb even from just a purely practical perspective. Cop killing and looting is illegal and that's not going to fucking change and trying to prevent those things from happening in the first place isn't actually helped by putting people who play dead at the state fair or show up for candlelight vigils on a fucking watch list. Fucking COINTELPRO wasn't exactly America's proudest moment.AndreiChekov wrote:BLM to be labelled the terrorist organization that it is.
67 is essentially a referendum on an existing (though I believe not yet in place) ban on single-use plastic bags. If you vote yes, the ban is upheld. If you vote no, the ban is lifted.Prak wrote:Wait, I'm confused. Looking at the props, 65 says "stores must put the money they get from reusable plastic bag sales into a fund for environmental purposes" and 67 says "the 2014 law should go into effect, and stores get to keep money from selling reusable bags"FrankTrollman wrote:67 is a measure to prevent grocery stores from giving out disposable plastic bags. 65 is a measure to make it more difficult for grocery stores to sell reusable bags. 65 is an attempt to undermine 67 and make it more difficult to implement. You should vote for 67 and not for 65, things are bad if 65 passes, as it gets really funky whether or not 67 passes at that point.
So... wouldn't the optimal thing be to vote yes on both? The law takes effect and the money stores get from selling reusables goes to environmental causes.
You know what a pothole to an article has that an unsourced quote doesn't, fuckface? Citations.Longes wrote:It's from the same fucking wikipedia article Frank linked, you twat.Mask_De_H wrote:Look Longes, you vodka swilling fuckfence, if you want to have anyone see your posts as anything other than "NOTICE ME PUTIN-SENPAI~" you're going to have to at least link your sources.
I love my little online echo chamber...MGuy wrote:It has illuminated for me that my cousin thinks that Hillary is an Illuminati Witch (something I'd never heard of before him talking to me about it). It's shown me that there is a lot of crazy among people I know to varying degrees.
Worshipper of Moloch specifically.MGuy wrote:It has illuminated for me that my cousin thinks that Hillary is an Illuminati Witch (something I'd never heard of before him talking to me about it). It's shown me that there is a lot of crazy among people I know to varying degrees.
Honestly this is the kind of thing that makes me vote for HillaryWikileaks stuff wrote:Thanks to the Wikileaks Hillary Clinton Email Archive (containing 30,022 emails, free to search), we now have more concrete proof that Hillary Clinton and other globalist elites have occult ties.
65 is a poison pill ammendment created by people who want to undermine the plastic bag ban. There's some nice sounding stuff in it, but it's just intended to sound nice, not be nice. This is sadly a thing that corporations and pressure groups do quite frequently in California when there is a popular sounding motion on the ballot they want to undermine. They know that of the 36 million people in California, very few of them have ranks in Decipher Script.Prak wrote:Wait, I'm confused. Looking at the props, 65 says "stores must put the money they get from reusable plastic bag sales into a fund for environmental purposes" and 67 says "the 2014 law should go into effect, and stores get to keep money from selling reusable bags"FrankTrollman wrote:67 is a measure to prevent grocery stores from giving out disposable plastic bags. 65 is a measure to make it more difficult for grocery stores to sell reusable bags. 65 is an attempt to undermine 67 and make it more difficult to implement. You should vote for 67 and not for 65, things are bad if 65 passes, as it gets really funky whether or not 67 passes at that point.
So... wouldn't the optimal thing be to vote yes on both? The law takes effect and the money stores get from selling reusables goes to environmental causes.
If I were 100% certain that this was true, I'd be more likely to vote for Hillary Clinton.MGuy wrote:It has illuminated for me that my cousin thinks that Hillary is an Illuminati Witch (something I'd never heard of before him talking to me about it). It's shown me that there is a lot of crazy among people I know to varying degrees.