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Count_Arioch_the_28th at [unixtime wrote:1173952517[/unixtime]]

josephbt at [unixtime wrote:1173937258[/unixtime]] One says that half of your damage dealt is city damage,

Question, what the fvck is city damage? It sounds really stupid.

Motion that "city" damage becomes "stupid" damage. At least "stupid" is an adjective.

If you lightning bolt someone, half is from an errant lightning bolt from a power line, or from the gravel on the ground if you shoot, say, Magic missile.

Yes, it's mega dumb. MM deals half force and half city damage???? Go ask the Wraiths if they care about city gravel?

Like i said, it's a concept from MtA, where you have to cast in such a way so that you dont gain paradox. That's why some of your spells look like a natural occurence. In a weird "It wasn't me, the building just fell on him" kinda way.

I was already considering posting this - had the exact same idea about naming Cityscape. About Dungeonscape, I support "It's Trapped Inside". Going back to lurking ...

I guess that makes Cityscape into It's Mage Inside?

^ That sounds like a slogan you'd get if Intel and Wizards of the Coast worked on a D&D specific CPU...

I second the motion to calling city damage stupid damage.
I second dubbing the one book "It's crowded outside".

Digestor at [unixtime wrote:1173981866[/unixtime]]^ That sounds like a slogan you'd get if Intel and Wizards of the Coast worked on a D&D specific CPU...

Well T$R and Intel did work on hardware back in the old days. This resulted in a numeric co-processor that always failed it's calculations if it rolled 1 on a d20.

ba-dmm-tshh

I actually think that the 'blameless mage' is a cool idea, but the "city damage" is pretty craptastic.

They could have just made it one or two feats with the effects of 'does not appear to emanate from the caster (target must make reflex save or be flat-footed for the attack?)' and 'appears to be a natural, if highly unlikely, occurance (spellcraft DC A*X+B to determine that spell was cast, DC A*X+C to determine which spell was cast).'

The non-blameless mage is extremely powerful. If you can't tell the guy is casting a spell he can effectively charm people with reckless abandon, and keep doing it until it works. Even if he runs out of slots, nobody knows it's him.

So have fun looting the magic item shop, or just being a dick casting annoying spells on people, like hold monster on some guys horse in the middle of a joust, just because you can.

If you successfully charm somone, isn't that pretty blameless?

-Crissa

Not having read anything yet, I am struck by the similarity in pronunciation in city damage and shitty damage. Especially when you have food in your mouth.

Crissa at [unixtime wrote:1174100316[/unixtime]]If you successfully charm somone, isn't that pretty blameless?

Depends on who's assigning the blame.

--d.

clikml at [unixtime wrote:1174102255[/unixtime]]Not having read anything yet, I am struck by the similarity in pronunciation in city damage and shitty damage. Especially when you have food in your mouth.

Motion that "stupid damage" moves to "shitty damage."

Seconded.

City = shitty.

You know, pet names are cool when they come to you, not when you sit down with a group and think up a couple of suitably degrading and witty names.

I think "shitty" damage came pretty naturally considering the dude thought of it while pronouncing 'city' with food in his mouth.

...just throwin' that out there. No need to be caustic about people having fun.

I wasn't being caustic
I just think that sitting in a circle with a group of people until you have an epiphany sort of defeats the purpose

MrWaeseL at [unixtime wrote:1174260015[/unixtime]]I wasn't being caustic
I just think that sitting in a circle with a group of people until you have an epiphany sort of defeats the purpose

I'd claim that they were joking and thus no purpose was being defeated, but that won't get us anywhere - so instead I'll comment on how I approve of the title "It's Inside Outside" for Dungeonscape.

How about "It's Not Outside" for Dungeonscape, and "I'd Rather Be Inside" for Cityscape?

Also, I haven't read it, but is shitty damage like divine damage, where it can't be negated by anything?

Shitty damage can be completely negated by diapers.

NineInchNall at [unixtime wrote:1174428792[/unixtime]]Shitty damage can be completely negated by diapers.

Well that depends...

Oh.

Ow.

That one really hurt!

Brobdingnagian wrote:How about "It's Not Outside" for Dungeonscape

Ha! Witty.

Is there a good resource that does even a fraction of what Cityscape *should* have done/provided?