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Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:48 pm
by tzor
FrankTrollman at [unixtime wrote:1204370693[/unixtime]]Left Wing and Right Wing refers to the places that the people in the French National Assembly sat. The First Estate (the Nobility) sat on the Right, and the Third Estate (the Commoners) sat on the Left.
I should also point that for U.S. politics in the U.S. Senate the Democrats sit on the left side of the isle and the Republicans sit on the right side. (
Senate Chamber Desk Arrangement )
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:17 pm
by JonSetanta
Count_Arioch_the_28th at [unixtime wrote:1204565455[/unixtime]]I don't like horses either. They're large, unpredictable animals and they have big teeth despite being an herbivore.
Astonishingly, I'm afraid of many local white people for that very same reason.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:54 pm
by Koumei
The "h" in "herbivore" is not silent. You pronounce it like the rest of the letters. So it's "a herbivore", not "an herbivore". The false silent h is a pet peeve of mine, especially the "He was an hero" thing.
Anyway, thanks guys. That was really informative, especially the somewhat frightening record (or lack thereof) of Bush, and now I can remember them. "Left and Liberal start with L".
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:49 am
by Count Arioch the 28th
Koumei at [unixtime wrote:1204588445[/unixtime]]The "h" in "herbivore" is not silent.
It is in America.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:59 am
by angelfromanotherpin
Yes, Americans refuse to pronounce the 'h' in herb, and this bleeds into herbivore. I'm not sure why they refuse to do this, since the fewer letters you pronounce, the closer your language is to being French.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:13 am
by Koumei
Count_Arioch_the_28th at [unixtime wrote:1204591790[/unixtime]]
It is... in America!
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:20 am
by Cielingcat
I hate you now, Koumei.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:40 am
by JonSetanta
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:27 am
by Koumei
And now I remember something about Monty Python: not all of their sketches are up there with the ones they show on Hollywood Bowl etc.
It was still good for a chuckle. "An hoop" indeed.
Ceilingcat: And you didn't before?
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:38 am
by Cielingcat
Nope. Not really now either, since I scrolled past the picture and haven't seen it in the last few moments.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:43 pm
by tzor
Actually I think different regional dialecs in America say it differently and not always consistantly. it also depends on the location of the word in a sentence. "Herb" is a good example and most people will use the "h" when it is in the beginning of a sentence and skip it in the middle.
As for American being so French like, first I would like to blame/thank the Normans. Then I would like to thank the good people of France who helped us with the revolution. Finally I would like to blame Canada; everything in the US should end up blaming Canada for no obvious reason.
(A good example of this is in the current Democratic primaries where in order to convince voters how anti-NAFTA they are they both try to accuse the other of being "nice" to Canada.)
Back to pronounciation. Where I work we tend to use a lot of symblism. For example we generate file codes with a certain extension, one could for example, end with am "E" and the other with an "M" (I believe that was correct as the letter M is pronounced "em.") We often refer to them as .E and .M. Mr. Gates skipps the "." and says it is an .E file but if you say the "dot" it would be "a (dot) E file."
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:09 pm
by Zherog
Crissa wrote:The biggest of his ventures was managing the Texas Rangers, during which his influences allowed them to seize land and create a new stadium, after which most of the land seized was sold at a profit, unused for the stadium.
Just a semantic nit pick...
"Manager" in baseball is an on-field position that revolves around making game decisions, such as who should pitch, who should hit, etc. W didn't have this position.
In general baseball media discussions, he was considered a "part owner" of the team. Whether he was something like "managing partner" or whatever - I have no idea, nor do I particularly care to be honest. The Rangers aren't my team.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:21 pm
by JonSetanta
I happen to be anti-semantic and proud of it.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:41 am
by Absentminded_Wizard
Zherog at [unixtime wrote:1204646999[/unixtime]]
Crissa wrote:The biggest of his ventures was managing the Texas Rangers, during which his influences allowed them to seize land and create a new stadium, after which most of the land seized was sold at a profit, unused for the stadium.
Just a semantic nit pick...
"Manager" in baseball is an on-field position that revolves around making game decisions, such as who should pitch, who should hit, etc. W didn't have this position.
In general baseball media discussions, he was considered a "part owner" of the team. Whether he was something like "managing partner" or whatever - I have no idea, nor do I particularly care to be honest. The Rangers aren't my team.
Yep, I think he was something like "managing partner" or "managing general parnter." He did actually make a few personnel decisions in that capacity. Including trading away Sammy Sosa (granted, before he started hitting a ton of homers).
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:57 pm
by Zherog
Also before he started using steroids.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:01 pm
by tzor
sigma999 at [unixtime wrote:1204662099[/unixtime]]I happen to be anti-semantic and proud of it.

You people who are so opposed to a system or theory or meaning just make me want to scream. Yes you can take your meaningless lives and find some other planet to live on. I prefer my meaning, and I like my system of meaning. I love my semantic becasue meaning means so much to me.
Yes I am being silly, and yes I never knew semantic was also a noun until I looked it up.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:44 am
by shirak
A language is a system of communication. By being anti-semantic you are either a) against communication or b) against accurate communication.
If the case is (a) then what are you doing here communicating with us anyway?
If the case is (b) then you are proposing that Bush has the right idea, that people should say "Go left" when they mean "Go right" and that doctors should tell you you are dying as soon as look at you. I really don't know what to say to you if non-accurate communication is your position.
Re: I can't tell my left from right
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:02 pm
by JonSetanta
Shirak: against both.
lulz