I don't care enough to copy-paste all your bullshit into one reply, so I'm just going to quote one and refer to the others
In regards to D&D taking my virginity-
Yes, D&D 3.5 was my first RPG, but while it's a lame fuck,
every other "kill shmucks and take their shit" fantasy game is worse. Runequest has a shit system (fake d%, roll under, magic is either ridiculously tedious to acquire or ridiculously over powered in knowledgeable enough hands and merely annoyingly difficult to acquire more of) and it's default setting is a reconstructionist piece of crap; Ars Magica's system is sufficiently opaque that you could make it a college textbook; WHFRPG has a shit system
and is Warhammer; Exalted is White Wolf, has a crappily defined system, and sufficient
types of sexual deviancy that people not turned off by the furry and bestiality stuff with Lunars will be squicked the fuck out by the time the books start giving them pedophilic necrophilia, if not before. Those are the major ones, what else should I explain the badness of? You mention Shadowrun, but that's not sword and sorcery fantasy, it's techno-fantasy. It'd be fun for a lark, but I prefer my fantasy to look like Marvel Asgard, not Blade Runner with orcs. Also the feel of D&D is part of why I like it. Sorry, but I don't want to get caught up in cattle ownership disputes, I want to bust into dungeons, kill shit, profit, and be a fantasy fucking rockstar.
Saints Row with plate mail and longswords. That's what I fucking want from my fantasy gaming, so even if Runequest used the "Dx+Mods" system that it really wants to and I made peace with it's "science doesn't exist, all is shitty primitive just so explanations" it still would not be the game I want, because Runequest is about "Authentic Bronze/Iron Age societies but with magic!" not "Kick in the dungeon door, kill the inhabiting monsters, acquire loot and fuck bitches." And even if it can accommodate that, the people who run it don't want to run it that way or they'd just run fucking D&D.
silva wrote:Nice points Judging Eagle.
For more authentic Iron Age settings, see Glorantha (with bronze age elements thrown in), Agon, Hillfolk, Yggdrasil, etc. There was that d20 setting that had a strong iron age vibe too but the name escape me now. *EDIT* Scarred Lands!
I've explained my issues with Glorantha heavily, and Dragon's Pass is not he tabletop Glorantha, and whether MRQ is representative or not, I would probably just take even more issue with any other version, so fuck Glorantha.
I am dubious about Agon's claims, but it doesn't matter, because if I haven't heard of it before now, I would have a better chance of finding a unicorn to play D&D with than real people to play Agon with. Also, looking through the sample pdf, it's a system where your abilities are rated by die size, so fuck Agon.
I just googled Hillfolk, and first, the thing about Agon and Unicorns holds true here too, and second reading the preview on google I saw "epic personal interaction" so I do not have high hopes, given that implies the game is about diplomacy and diplomacy mechanics in games range from "fucking terrible" to "shit, but the game isn't about diplomacy so no one cares." The Kickstarter exhorts "those magical game sessions where the dice and rules fall away, and the entire group spontaneously enters a collective zone of pure story and character" and I have lost interest. The game itself doesn't care about rules, so why should I care about it, let alone the book that basically tells me that the best session is one where I don't need it. If I wanted to resolve things purely through whoever was the best actual diplomat or had the quickest wits, I would go join a theatre or improv group and maybe get laid.
Yggdrasil once again has me looking for unicorns to just play D&D with, but it also uses an exploding d10 dicepool keep two system. If I want a shittily constructed system where I just gather as many d10s as I can and hope as many of them explode as possible, I'll play fucking WoD. I have fond memories, and I could actually find players. And again, I might actually get laid if I did that. ...in fact I might need to go post in some Fetlife groups now.
Scarred Lands is a D&D setting for d20 by White Wolf. I would love to play a necromancer who makes three undead from one corpse and has a run in with the Jack of Knaves that might end in getting shanked, sucking the JoK's dick, or running from a river-boat mounted carnival of sadists and monsters, but White Wolf is no better at writing d20 material than they are at writing material for their own games. CRs and LAs are over the fucking place, and that's just the creature collections. I might review one or two if I don't feel like doing something more constructive some time.
Finally, your response to this thread verges on spam, Silva. You saw the thread title, you came in knowing it was specifically about altering D&D, and you know that most people here, including me, do not want to play Runequest, Bear World, or pretty much any other fucking thing you might advocate. If you started liking and advocating 3.X, I'd search for what shit rules had you excited so I could fix them in my games. And instead of replying in the vein of the thread with any suggestions for making D&D combat quicker, even "I really like this thing from [shitty game] and think it speeds up combat, have you considered adding that?" you said "just play something better." Kaelik's response of this sort was expected, and he can design and reason his way out of a paper bag, and still provide valid and valuable points and thoughts even if his initial response is "clearly you don't want to play D&D." Stop spamming you shitlord, Silva.