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The fascism this country has historically exported abroad comes home at last to settle locally for everyone, instead of just the marginalized, and the people in charge have decided to dismantle the government. The leaders of the only opposition party that we have, have decided fighting is too bothersome and actually using the little leverage they have is not the call to make because that's not how they played it in 2017. There's a lot of bad news. The amount is overwhelming. Personally, I've had to limit on my intake. There are some bits of good news in all of this at least. The catastrophic loss of faith for both parties seems to be settling in. Finally, after so many years of back to back failure people are starting to realize the dem party is shit. People are starting to take more direct action when opposing people like Elon. Some of the Trump fever seems to be breaking, at least for some people who have been directly effected by Trump's wanton destruction of our country. I really wish people could have understood that Sanders was the better leader back in 2016 but it seems we're going to have to see if the other end of this fascist acceleration leads to something better or worse. With the words 'general strike' being put in the air maybe something can shake out.
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I guess I should make a note that the democrats got another three day weekend by passing the republican Continuing Resolution with no filibuster. So you can feel safe. Nothing is wrong. The three day weekends for senators are still happening.
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I don't like to dismiss convenient and affirming conspiracy theories too easily.

But.

I think it could come out tomorrow that Trump's secret origin was as a soviet era marvel black widow and it wouldn't hurt him and he knows it.

So what are you implying trump is killing people "clinton mafia" conspiracy theory style to cover up? What could possibly be worth it? What can he not just brush off as "Lawfare" and "well its technically legal and they do it worse" even if it actually isn't or they don't and then instead benefit from it in the coverage, polls and politically?

If it's the piss tape I will laugh at you.

If it's the known Russsian probably government backed kick backs I will laugh at you.

If it's the known Russian criminal money laundering and financial ties, I will STILL laugh at you.

Looking at your link, it seems to me more likely that IF anyone assassinated her at all it would be more likely to be the CIA covering up something totally unrelated we don't know about.

I mean for fucks sake people RUSSIA GATE has never and WILL NEVER actually succeed. He could be revealed to be Stalin in a mask at this point and the endless attempts to resuscitate the failed Russia Gate fixation will only have IMMUNISED Stalin in a mask from being politically attacked from the angle of being Stalin in a mask.

edit: Bet you wish your president WAS Stalin in a mask. WAY better US president.
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Russia tends to like it when people leak information from the US government, don't they? They're the ones who took in Snowden.

This nazi administration has been pretty shit, though. I've got to be an accelerationist to stay sane now, because what hope have we got if not something better rising from the ashes of all this bullshit? The Democrats are fucking useless and if you listen to what the people who still lead the party are saying it's "whoops we have no idea what to do. I guess just do whatever Trump wants?" Or, if you're going with the younger leaders, more neoliberal bullshit like the Abundance Agenda. Everyone is pissed though and people are lighting Teslas on fire, so there's some hope for us yet. Maybe more things will get lit on fire and force some change. And hey, if things keep on not changing there's plenty of other flammable stuff to try out.
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PseudoStupidity wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:07 pm
Russia tends to like it when people leak information from the US government, don't they? They're the ones who took in Snowden.
EVERYONE likes it when people leak information from the US government.'

The US public like it when people leak information from the US government.

Large parts of the US government like it when people leak information from the US government.

If YOU think it is suspicious or bad to leak information from the US government in any form other than fake propaganda "leaks", then you need to re-assess your opinion.
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I didn't scan the headline correctly, I thought it was calling the person who was dead a CIA leaker (which would make it even weirder to think Russia would go after them). Still highly skeptical of Russia going after someone for at one time investigating stuff about Russia. I suspect we'd see a lot more dead people if that were a thing they were doing.
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Trump is really going for it with the tariffs, we are in for some lean times. Maybe also the destruction of the US empire? That would be a nice silver lining for the massive amount of misery and death that will be caused by nuking the world economy.
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Yeah, I'm not seeing the US doing well from the economy crashing, especially when one way to limit the damage is to stop trading with the US.
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And there is infighting allready.
Musk does not like his star link monopoly to be threatened by Apple.
And Amazon is allready on the way to be competition there as well.

Apple may actually have to reconsider some things, appearantly they have allready lost 300 billion in stock because of trumps tarifs.

And this is before the EU is actually retaliating.

China has allready implemented punishment tarifs against the US as well and seeing how China is THE biggest producer of stuff this may be very bad.
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Stahlseele wrote:
Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:46 pm
China has allready implemented punishment tarifs against the US as well and seeing how China is THE biggest producer of stuff this may be very bad.
The fact that China is a net exporter makes it hard for them to fully retaliate.

A tariff is a tax applied to goods entering a country, and is paid by the consumers who purchase those products. Goods from China to the United States will become more expensive for consumers. Since everything is made in China, that's bad for Americans.

The purported silver lining would be manufacturing jobs, which are currently in places like China, might move to the United States. But that won't actually make things any cheaper for American consumers. First off, it will take a long time for manufacturing to move, if it does at all. Secondly, an American company not subject to the tariffs is only incentivized to sell their product ENOUGH cheaper to dominate the market. If they can produce a product for 110% of the cost of producing it in China, but China is subject to a 50% tariff, they can mark up their item anywhere from 110% (at cost) to 150% (the new cost for a Chinese product) and still sell (assuming there is demand). Note that consumers are now paying at least 110% of the old price (and probably much closer to 150%).

In any case, the United States imports $400 Billion in Chinese goods. To keep the math easy, if the United States imposes a 50% tariff (currently it is 54% on most goods) those $400 Billion will cost Americans $600 Billion. The United States exports $150 Billion to China. If they apply a 50% tariff (currently 34%) it will cost Chinese consumers an extra $75 Billion. Now anyone that has done Econ 101 knows that supply and demand are usually price sensitive - the fact of the matter is that we won't import $400 Billion of Chinese Goods - anyone that can switch manufacturing to the US easily will do so, raise their prices because they're competing against overcosted Chinese goods, and consumers will still suffer. Of course, people will spend less on discretionary items - if people are unwilling to give up coffee, for instance, and they don't magically get more money, the increased price of coffee means they will have to reduce spending in other places.

Since so much of the U.S. economy is driven by consumer spending, and that will decline sharply in the face of higher prices, and another big portion is driven by government spending (also being slashed capriciously at this moment) we are absolutely heading for a recession. That means that people will be losing their jobs, exacerbating the problem.

That only begins to scratch the surface of how poorly conceived this idea is.

By November 2026, I expect Republicans to be losing districts with a +30% lean if this policy isn't reversed soon. Hopefully everyone is reminded of how beneficial to society Socialist policies like Social Security have been and we have another 'New Deal' that includes universal health care. Assuming that elections are even a thing, of course.
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I expect Trump trying to make good on his threats to Canada, Greenland and Mexico and kicking off a ressource war more or less domestically.
Probably in 2027 so he can use it to try and get re-elected in 2028.
They are trying to make nuclear Batteries as well, we may be closer to the Fallout Timeline than we would like.
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One of the consequences of the Trump administration that is unexpectedly rearing its head is happening here in Australia.

Is his popularity bringing down our piss poor excuse for a social democrat party and its dorky lisping cowardly uncharismatic failure of a do nothing leader?

Is his tariff plan getting him everything he wanted from our subservient vassal state?

Has our cowering mole man of a Prime Minister exploited Trump as the ideal excuse to end the increasingly fatal disease of the "Special relationship" with the USA?

Nope. It seems like Trumps massive unpopularity, especially since the tariff debacle, might be the one thing that saves our version of the Democrats from what would almost certainly have been our own local Trump regime.

It's still not certain. But if the lesser evil wins here in Australia, it WILL be because of the damage Trump has managed to do to the western fascist brand identity.

Unfortunately, it will not be because of anything our "good guys" actually did themselves. Since they have done literally less than nothing to stop the fascists, and indeed, less than nothing period for an entire term in power.

Worst. ALP. Government. Ever.

Albanese is Billy Hughes level bad as an ALP Prime minister. And Billy Hughes basically personally founded both the major parties in opposition to the ALP.

But Trump might still hand it to Albanese via the local Trump franchise holders.

Staving off our own inevitable liberal meltdown into fascism by about 4 more years.
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Same thing happening in Canada.

Liberal banker man promises to solve all their problems that a decade of liberal party rule hasn't solved, so the conservatives will probably be kept out, but also they will continue the exact same failed policies until the next election at which point presumably people will move on to conservatives.
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However, somehow the same thing is not happening in the UK as far as I can tell.

I'd say there is a lesson there for liberals that intend to even further adopt the fascist talking points to try to save their own asses.

But there is never a lesson anywhere for liberals.
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A judge has been arrested for what seems to be minorly inconveniencing the Gestapo who were camped outside the courthouse to snag citizens who were going to that court. Lead dems seem to want both to ignore the gestapo they helped empower and validate and don't think that americans should be discussing the oligarchy right now. They also don't want democrats who have been part of the problem for decades to be primaried in future elections. A recent talking point from what I am seeing, which is a bit confusing because I'm very sure Schumer and Pelosi made that their known practice at around the same time they were helping the republicans set up the talking points necessary to deport minorities and crack down on anyone protesting genocie.
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