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fbmf wrote:Are you being serious? This is a rule a GitP?
Wait, how it is that you of all people don't remember? Got replaced with a clone, have you? Roland St. Jude came here last autumn to bawww about a photo of his (with a hand drill) and to defend that retarded rule.
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Starmaker wrote:
fbmf wrote:Are you being serious? This is a rule a GitP?
Wait, how it is that you of all people don't remember? Got replaced with a clone, have you? Roland St. Jude came here last autumn to bawww about a photo of his (with a hand drill) and to defend that retarded rule.
It's probably because most of us don't bother with the frighteningly useless gipt boards, and thus don't care, despite being somewhat friendly with Rich.
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Starmaker wrote:
fbmf wrote:Are you being serious? This is a rule a GitP?
Wait, how it is that you of all people don't remember? Got replaced with a clone, have you? Roland St. Jude came here last autumn to bawww about a photo of his (with a hand drill) and to defend that retarded rule.
Where is that piece of shit anyway? I remember reading it, thinking it was incredibly stupid, and moving on, but I want to check to see exactly how stupid.
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So for the aussies - Abbots scheme is fucking hilarious. He wants to ship under 30s woh are on the dole out west to work on the mines.

After all, staffing unskilled workers with no training into a boom industry worked so well for the insulation scheme, amirite??!?!

What a retard. I hope he catches herpes.
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This is more of a RL life than anything.

But if I have to listen one more time to a middle-class economics or business major whine about being on the gold standard I'm going to scream.

I've heard this asked three times in the last week. I mean, fuck people.
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What exactly did they ask? Why we're on the gold standard?
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No, it's always something akin to 'why are we on fiat money we should go back to the gold standard since it's actually worth something blah blah blah'.
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In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.
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RobbyPants wrote:What exactly did they ask? Why we're on the gold standard?
Why we're not.


There's this big...subculture...of people who buy Gold. (That's how the ads say it. Capitalized. Each time it shows up. There's one in the newspaper sometime.)

I'm going to love it when the economy stabilizes and the gold price plummets.

But I will say the George Washington gold dollar I got in change out of a vending machine was nifty. http://www.mintcoindealer.com/images/Ge ... d-Coin.jpg
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Maxus wrote:I'm going to love it when the economy stabilizes and the gold price plummets.
Don't hold your breath. It'll go up at least until Iraq and Afghanistan stabilize... not the economy, at least in the current gold push.

Another market crash would actually cause it to fall as people sell it off, though.


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Lago PARANOIA wrote:No, it's always something akin to 'why are we on fiat money we should go back to the gold standard since it's actually worth something blah blah blah'.
You know what else is worth something? Lead.

Let's move to the lead standard guys.
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Honestly in some sense the American Dollar is built on the lead standard.

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Repubicans block one hundred administrtion nominees in a single day.
Ganbare Gincun wrote:More footage of idiotic teabaggers. :roll:
WTF, that link triggers several overlaying audio clips without Flash running. What gives?

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Maxus wrote:
RobbyPants wrote:What exactly did they ask? Why we're on the gold standard?
Why we're not.


There's this big...subculture...of people who buy Gold. (That's how the ads say it. Capitalized. Each time it shows up. There's one in the newspaper sometime.)

I'm going to love it when the economy stabilizes and the gold price plummets.

But I will say the George Washington gold dollar I got in change out of a vending machine was nifty. http://www.mintcoindealer.com/images/Ge ... d-Coin.jpg
I never got that. I know some people like that, they are convinced when society falls (and it will. Annnnnnyyyy daaaay now) that gold will be worth something. I'm not sure if we were reduced back to the turnip economy that gold would be worth anything.
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Well yes, that's the funnies part.

They for some stupid reason believe that in the destruction of all governments that someone people will actually care about gold as a currency.

But currencies only exist for two reasons:

1) People want the things you have for their use.

2) They want it because it is an agreed upon currency.

And you pretty much can't have 2) without a fucking government, because you need something to assure future trade.

In a non industrial society, gold is fucking useless. It doesn't even do shit without electricity and jewelry.

So no, no one is going to want it for one or two without a government, they will trade guns for turnips, and they will ignore your fucking gold, just like they will ignore other heavy soft medals, like lead, which can't do shit.
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Eh, some people would want gold in the hopes that a nice economy would come back some time soon and others would still want their bling. Betting on the economy collapsing soon and simultaneously being able to keep and use your hoarded gold is kind of like betting on the rapture though.
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What about the point that the 'gold' that a large portion of these people are buying is hidden in a vault somewhere, and some portion of it isn't real?

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Crissa wrote:What about the point that the 'gold' that a large portion of these people are buying is hidden in a vault somewhere, and some portion of it isn't real?

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Wait, the gold scam is based around shares of gold rather than physical possession of the commodity? That would be even more absurd that I thought.
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Sorry to cut in on the conversation about gold, but this makes me die a little inside: Study Suggests More People Willing to Believe in ESP When Told It's Been Scientifically Disproven. Every day it looks more and more like we're getting ready to blast ourselves back to the turnip economy.
(Note: I can't find very much on the reliability of the journal, but I would not be surprised if their results are exactly correct.)
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CatharzGodfoot wrote:
Crissa wrote:What about the point that the 'gold' that a large portion of these people are buying is hidden in a vault somewhere, and some portion of it isn't real?
Wait, the gold scam is based around shares of gold rather than physical possession of the commodity? That would be even more absurd that I thought.
Well, yeah. Most of them don't deliver to your house, unless they're selling it to you at an extreme markup.

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Yeah. The gold is in a vault somewhere. By buying into it, you have a contract that is guaranteed by the government that you own a portion of that gold. So if society collapses, that contract won't be worth anything, and you won't have any gold or any money or any turnips. It's a great scam.

About the only thing those metal repositories are good for is money laundering. Since you can in many cases transfer the contracts anonymously. So people use them for credit card fraud and child pornography and stuff. That's not even an exaggeration.

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Yeah, several of them talk about how transfers of gold skip past government requirements for reporting income and currency transfers while simultaneously are currency acceptable to transactions.

Ugh. I might point out the IRS and various state transfer boards take a very dim view of that reading of the law.

But for some reason, for the last thirty-odd years the US has been in 'enable crazy people mode'

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Palestinian beach bums surfing it up in Gaza. (warning: human interest story)
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CatharzGodfoot wrote:Palestinian beach bums surfing it up in Gaza. (warning: human interest story)
Fuck YES. Get out and surf!

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Count Arioch wrote:I'm not sure how discussions on whether PR is a terrible person or not is on-topic.
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You do not seem to do anything.
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