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OgreBattle wrote:I've been asked not to use Zoom for work 'cause it's not secure

Charles Yu wrote:But the reality is, zooming out to the largest scale, fighting the pandemic effectively requires us to take actions that go against our instincts, our intuitions, the things we evolved to be good at. Cooperation—farsighted, strategic, collaborative action—is required to defeat an adversary that relies on our physical cohesion. We can find meaning in how we fight it, but relying on our old illusions, assuming that we, as humans, will prevail, is dangerous. Life, for us and the virus, is about genes propagating themselves. No amount of magical thinking or bluster or can-do attitude can change that fact.

Foxwarrior wrote:https://security.stackexchange.com/ques ... e-app-zoom

Huge conference calls are kinda hard to make secure.

Hicks wrote: Food riots.

It is only a matter of time until the 50~74% of americans living paycheck to paycheck in january 2020, the 50% of americans with less than 400$ in savings, and the 30% of americans with ZERO savings run out of money. And the system that compels your labor for wages to exchange for food with the implicit threat of destitution and starvation backed up by the explicit threat of being shot in the goddam face for taking food without paying for it is going to crash straight into the wall of there is an incurable plague and the vast majority of americans cannot work or they will be exposed, overstuff the hospitals, and fucking die. Not just from the incurable plague where 20% of those affected require hospitalization to survive, but from all the other life threatening accidents and diseases that happen normally.

And the very moment the people who are being forced to starve at gunpoint when we not only produce more than enough food to feed everyone but even ship it to your neighborhood every fucking day REALIZE that they out number all the police, national guard, and military by 99 to 1, this whole farce is over.

This whole farce has been over the moment Congress printed up one and a half trillion dollars from nothing. 1/3 of that went to the people to buy groceries for a month, and 2/3 of that went to businesses. But until that vaccine is not only found but tested and administered we're staring down 3 to 22 months of shelter in place, depending on how many people we want to let die. Regardless of what happens, Capitalism is over. It failed. We're doing socialism. Like right now, when a 1.5 trillion dollars was invented to give to people so they wouldn't starve. If the government does enough socialism, we may even get to vote in elections.

If the government does not do enough socialism.... food riots and looting. Americans have more guns than every man, woman, and child in america. 250+ million people are at risk. And we will either unite in solidarity to provide for the people and end the riots, ie actual communism, or the population will be fractured into pockets of people who swear loyalty for access to another's food hoard or be shot in the face, ie feudalism.

And if we collapse into feudalism, we will not achieve global negative carbon emissions by 2030, and eventually all our farmland to produce and roads to distribute will be fractured and flooded under rivers and seas of salt water. An actual instead of enforced famine, and humanity is over.

I have nightmares about this every night. I can barely sleep.

And you know what? Technically I got mine, right? I'm a trucker who drives groceries to stores accross the north east. I will be the literal last person working with health insurance and access to literal truckloads of food. However, in the face of 250 million people being forced to starve at gunpoint, that is flatly unacceptable.

i refuse to stand by and watch this come to pass.

Ergo, we must connect, plan, and organize our workplaces to ensure fuel, food, medicine, and goods are produced and distributed to the public for when they have no wages to exchange for sustinance. We produce in excess. We distribute in excess. Wages are the bottleneck; suspend their requirement. Driven no longer by a profit motive, but by a communal survival motive: It is simply not nessisary for you to die to a plague working a non-essential job when we essential workers can provide. Your job is to shelter in place and perform social distancing.

I... I cannot go home. Not until a vaccine is distributed and my wife recovers from it. She has comorbidities and is right near the 55% death age bracket. But that is only if the government does enough socialism to feed and house and clothe and connect everyone until a vaccine arrives. If they don't... well I may get to see her again if after the food riots we do communism... but if we collapse into feudalism I'll never get to see her again without risking unintentionally killing her.

So prepare.

Connect and Plan to Organize and Collectivize.

And I will do my damndest to truck y'all your groceries.

Hicks wrote:Americans have more guns than every man, woman, and child in america. 250+ million people are at risk. And we will either unite in solidarity to provide for the people and end the riots, ie actual communism, or the population will be fractured into pockets of people who swear loyalty for access to another's food hoard or be shot in the face, ie feudalism.

deaddmwalking wrote:The total number of unemployment claims for the last 3 weeks now exceeds 16 million.

The Adventurer's Almanac wrote:Sorry citizen, protesting is a threat to public health. Protests are cancelled until it's safer to go outside.

Omegonthesane wrote:Protest marches don't have to defy social distancing rules. They could carry ladders between them to blockade areas they weren't physically occupying

Stahlseele wrote:

Kaelik wrote:Pelosi says they can't do Congress through Zoom because it's a Chinese entity.\

Now, 1) Obviously don't do Congress through Zoom because it's a PRIVATE entity, duh.

2) You don't actually need to do it through a fucking face app, you could fucking call in or email or whatever the fuck. But you could also just have the state use existing software it has to create video conferences.

3) Zoom is not a Chinese entity, it's a US corporation, but it's CEO is a Chinese American, so I'm going to suggest that MAYBE this stupid comment was made because Pelosi basically pulled a Bari Weiss and just assumed something is Chinese because she saw an Asian face. Which like... would be pretty fucked up.

I imagine you are not following Tech News more than anything else but . .
You do not use ZOOM no matter who makes it because it is a fucking unsecure piece of crap software that i would not even do tech support via for people i do not like . .

Foxwarrior wrote:https://security.stackexchange.com/ques ... e-app-zoom

Huge conference calls are kinda hard to make secure.

The Adventurer's Almanac wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/thousands-conver ... _test=2_15

Michigan protests.

zugschef wrote:Newest studies show a correlation of covid-19 mortality and air pollution. Speculative causes for this are victims whose lungs are weakened from respirable dust and the possibility that respirable dust makes the virus last longer in breathable air.

Iduno wrote: Boy, a lot of people are suddenly going to become educated about the anti-protest bills that got passed during the Dakota Access Pipeline fiasco.

rasmuswagner wrote:

Iduno wrote: Boy, a lot of people are suddenly going to become educated about the anti-protest bills that got passed during the Dakota Access Pipeline fiasco.

What, you thought those apply to white people? That's the funniest shit I heard all morning.

FrankTrollman wrote:

Well boys and girls, now we are all Communists.

-Username17