ideas that need to go away

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:08 am

New Zealand = Kiwi

koz · Post by **koz** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:24 am

Orion wrote:Sinister is a fruit now? Like what, a Cantelope?

... can I be a papaya?

(But seriously what is Shadzard even talking about?)

Nobody knows. Shadzar making sense is about as likely as airborne bacon.

Frankly, I like being a fruit, although cantaloupe melons aren't my preference. If I could be a fruit, I'd be a peach.

Edit: Sigged.

A Man In Black · Post by **A Man In Black** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:20 am

Orion wrote:(But seriously what is Shadzard even talking about?)

What is Shadzar ever talking about?

koz · Post by **koz** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:20 am

A Man In Black wrote:
Orion wrote:(But seriously what is Shadzard even talking about?)
What is Shadzar ever talking about?

Dunno, but it's clearly in tongues.

Shadow Balls · Post by **Shadow Balls** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:39 pm

Mister_Sinister wrote:
Count Arioch the 28th wrote:According to another thread in this forum, there's lots of people that like having cock in their mouth.
Shadzar loves cock in his mouth. Among other things, since words clearly don't come out of it coherent.

But is it an entire barrel of cocks or just one big horse weiner?

UmaroVI · Post by **UmaroVI** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:40 pm

"Fruit" is an archaic slang term for a gay man.

Seerow · Post by **Seerow** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:44 pm

UmaroVI wrote:"Fruit" is an archaic slang term for a gay man.

Wow when did that become archaic? I feel old now.

CatharzGodfoot · Post by **CatharzGodfoot** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:46 pm

Seerow wrote:
UmaroVI wrote:"Fruit" is an archaic slang term for a gay man.
Wow when did that become archaic? I feel old now.

I'm guessing 15 or 20 years ago.

Seerow · Post by **Seerow** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:50 pm

CatharzGodfoot wrote:
Seerow wrote:
UmaroVI wrote:"Fruit" is an archaic slang term for a gay man.
Wow when did that become archaic? I feel old now.
I'm guessing 15 or 20 years ago.

It was still being used when I was in school. Less than 10 years ago.

Orion · Post by **Orion** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:03 pm

Oh, I've heard it but I know nothing about Sinister's preferences and doubt if Shadzar does either.

koz · Post by **koz** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:27 pm

Orion wrote:Oh, I've heard it but I know nothing about Sinister's preferences and doubt if Shadzar does either.

Whatever weird American lingo you guys wanna bring into this is your business. Over here in New Zealand, where we speak the Queen's English, 'fruit' is a thing you eat.

And inb4cannibalismjokes: Yeah, I thought of that too.

ShadowBalls: I think the differences in terms of Shadzar's spouted idiocy would be rather minimal regardless of which of the two items happened to be stuffed down his throat at the time of its pronouncement.

Shadow Balls · Post by **Shadow Balls** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:42 pm

Mister_Sinister wrote:ShadowBalls: I think the differences in terms of Shadzar's spouted idiocy would be rather minimal regardless of which of the two items happened to be stuffed down his throat at the time of its pronouncement.

So what you are saying is he is good at deep throating?

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:42 pm

Mister_Sinister wrote:
Orion wrote:Oh, I've heard it but I know nothing about Sinister's preferences and doubt if Shadzar does either.
Whatever weird American lingo you guys wanna bring into this is your business. Over here in New Zealand, where we speak the Queen's English, 'fruit' is a thing you eat.

And inb4cannibalismjokes: Yeah, I thought of that too.

ShadowBalls: I think the differences in terms of Shadzar's spouted idiocy would be rather minimal regardless of which of the two items happened to be stuffed down his throat at the time of its pronouncement.

Er, I'm guessing you have Shad on ignore by this point, he explained he was calling you a kiwi, as you're a new zealander.

koz · Post by **koz** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:17 pm

Shadow Balls wrote:
Mister_Sinister wrote:ShadowBalls: I think the differences in terms of Shadzar's spouted idiocy would be rather minimal regardless of which of the two items happened to be stuffed down his throat at the time of its pronouncement.
So what you are saying is he is good at deep throating?

Obliquely.

Also Prak: Yes, I (like every sane person) have Shad on ignore. Check my signature for details.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:47 pm

Fruit exacerbates my erosive esophagitis, and I can't eat it anymore.

Shadow Balls · Post by **Shadow Balls** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:05 pm

Mister_Sinister wrote:
Shadow Balls wrote:
Mister_Sinister wrote:ShadowBalls: I think the differences in terms of Shadzar's spouted idiocy would be rather minimal regardless of which of the two items happened to be stuffed down his throat at the time of its pronouncement.
So what you are saying is he is good at deep throating?
Obliquely.

Also Prak: Yes, I (like every sane person) have Shad on ignore. Check my signature for details.

I am apparently not sane. Or I can just press Page Down.

Archmage · Post by **Archmage** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:12 pm

Has anyone mentioned shadzar as an "idea that needs to go away?"

Seerow · Post by **Seerow** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:27 am

Archmage wrote:Has anyone mentioned shadzar as an "idea that needs to go away?"

That would involve calling Shadzar an idea. That is an insult to ideas everywhere.

Chamomile · Post by **Chamomile** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:34 am

Seerow wrote:
Archmage wrote:Has anyone mentioned shadzar as an "idea that needs to go away?"
That would involve calling Shadzar an idea. That is an insult to ideas everywhere.

Shadzar is the bad idea from an Animaniacs good idea/bad idea short.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:42 am

How about people stop detailing threads by picking on people who basically can't defend themselves because everyone has them on ignore?

RadiantPhoenix · Post by **RadiantPhoenix** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:00 am

Ideas that need to go away:
* "But he can keep doing that every day and keep getting more {money, swords, dragons} out of it! That's broken!"
* "But that's physically impossible! You can't do it!"
* "I found a +23 toothpick of dental hygiene! That's +1 better than my current one!"
* "We're in Middle Earth! You can't be better than Aragorn!"

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:47 am

RadiantPhoenix wrote:Ideas that need to go away:
* "But he can keep doing that every day and keep getting more {money, swords, dragons} out of it! That's broken!"

this one i dont even understand...

Archmage · Post by **Archmage** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:59 am

Seerow wrote:
Archmage wrote:Has anyone mentioned shadzar as an "idea that needs to go away?"
That would involve calling Shadzar an idea. That is an insult to ideas everywhere.

You, of all people, should know better than to be nice to people, Mr. Seerow.

shadzar wrote:
RadiantPhoenix wrote:Ideas that need to go away:
* "But he can keep doing that every day and keep getting more {money, swords, dragons} out of it! That's broken!"
this one i dont even understand...

Example: You can cast wall of iron and get more iron than the components you consumed casting it. You can turn around and sell this iron to someone who would like to buy iron. You thus turn spell slots into wealth by performing a day's labor (however long it takes to cast the spell until you run out). You go to sleep that night and repeat the process the next morning.

If you can exchange gold for anything an adventurer might find useful, this is potentially problematic, except that it isn't because odds are you would make more money adventuring anyway (and if you don't get more treasure adventuring than you do by staying in town and blacksmithing or conjuring iron, your DM is doing something wrong assuming that amassing treasure is part of the goal of the game). You can also make the assumption that it breaks down economically (eventually you saturate the market with iron, so the price deflates--or maybe some other wizard has already beaten you to the punch and has cornered the iron market, but that just turns into an arms race where you teleport across the world or the planes to find new customers).

The argument is that with an arbitrary amount of time anything permanent produced by adventurers can be produced in quantities that approach infinity (including gold or things that can be exchanged for gold), which is somehow bad for gameplay and or world cohesion. This argument is largely retarded.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:18 am

Mister_Sinister wrote:Nobody knows. Shadzar making sense is about as likely as airborne bacon.

That's unfair, I mean these guys built a bacon rocket

But as to the general thread topic

RP wrote: "We're in Middle Earth! You can't be better than Aragorn!"

Really really needs to die a horrible-cannot-be-rasied-even-by-wish-death when it comes to properties licensed for games. If I pick up <Blockbuster Movie>: the Role-Playing Game[/i], that means that I want to play characters like those in <Blockbuster Movie> and run adventures for characters like those in <Blockbuster Movie>, not play characters and run adventures for characters who are so much more limited than the characters central to <Blockbuster Movie> that if and only if the game lasts two to three years, and if and only if the game meets at least weekly and if and only if the MC is on the generous side with advancement and if and only if players carefully plot near-optimal advancement path can they have abilities on par with the abilities shown in <Blockbuster Movie>

shadzar · Post by **shadzar** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:35 am

Archmage wrote:
shadzar wrote:
RadiantPhoenix wrote:Ideas that need to go away:
* "But he can keep doing that every day and keep getting more {money, swords, dragons} out of it! That's broken!"
this one i dont even understand...
Example: You can cast wall of iron and get more iron than the components you consumed casting it. You can turn around and sell this iron to someone who would like to buy iron. You thus turn spell slots into wealth by performing a day's labor (however long it takes to cast the spell until you run out). You go to sleep that night and repeat the process the next morning.

If you can exchange gold for anything an adventurer might find useful, this is potentially problematic, except that it isn't because odds are you would make more money adventuring anyway (and if you don't get more treasure adventuring than you do by staying in town and blacksmithing or conjuring iron, your DM is doing something wrong assuming that amassing treasure is part of the goal of the game). You can also make the assumption that it breaks down economically (eventually you saturate the market with iron, so the price deflates--or maybe some other wizard has already beaten you to the punch and has cornered the iron market, but that just turns into an arms race where you teleport across the world or the planes to find new customers).

The argument is that with an arbitrary amount of time anything permanent produced by adventurers can be produced in quantities that approach infinity (including gold or things that can be exchanged for gold), which is somehow bad for gameplay and or world cohesion. This argument is largely retarded.

ah, yeah cause that wouldbt happen as a wizard would get bored fast doing that... they crave knowledge and power over money and dont view money AS power. especially at 9th level it isnt worth it.

not to mention the wizard would be dead man walking the first time something made from these walls was dispelled.