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I didn't fully realize that 45k gold was an obscene amount of money back in 2011 for World of Warcraft. I had spent about 20k of it on a mount a bit before quitting, and apparently he was still enticing enough to be hacked by someone who then paid for a faction change AND server transfer in order to get at his gold.
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I'm watching a facebook story develop right now.

I mean the kind people send around.

I've got a cousin, her daughter has Down Syndrome. A man at the Little League group her daughter goes to said some mean things to her. She tried to talk to him about it on Facebook, he responded with a fuckton of vitriol about how God has punished her with a womb only capable of making a retard (which isn't true, the Down Syndrome kid is the younger of the pair, the old one's normal), and this is why tequila and human egg sacks don't mix.

So now my extended family has worked out who he is, where he works, he's deleted his Facebook profile, and I believe the three pages of his text message are being sent to his employer and other people he knows. Mob justice, FTW.

On the one hand, he's a shitheel and needs a beating. On the other hand, I don't like how thoroughly and enthusiastically folks I know are harrowing him.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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Fairly certain that fuckwit deserves all the enthusiastic harrowing the world can offer.
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Shrapnel wrote:Fairly certain that fuckwit deserves all the enthusiastic harrowing the world can offer.
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I can't argue with you, Shrap.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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Shrapnel wrote:Fairly certain that fuckwit deserves all the enthusiastic harrowing the world can offer.
Mob justice can easily and quickly became bad. Using something as irrational as feelings to justify one's "justice" many times leads to results that are greater than the initial triggering action.
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I've been chased out of towns for less than that. I'd rather live in a society that doesn't resolve issues with mob violence but I'm giving him the same sympathy that people gave me: not one goddamn bit. Should have kept that to himself.
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Count Arioch the 28th wrote:I've been chased out of towns for less than that.
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Maxus wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:Fairly certain that fuckwit deserves all the enthusiastic harrowing the world can offer.
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I can't argue with you, Shrap.
So if you agree he deserves it, why do you object to him recieving it?

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fbmf wrote: So if you agree he deserves it, why do you object to him recieving it?

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You can like the results while being uncomfortable with the process I suppose.
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fbmf wrote:
Maxus wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:Fairly certain that fuckwit deserves all the enthusiastic harrowing the world can offer.
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I can't argue with you, Shrap.
So if you agree he deserves it, why do you object to him recieving it?

Game On,
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Because the process for determining who does or doesn't get shit on rarely stops because I decide they don't deserve it. So seeing it happen doesn't make me thrilled.

Like, if it turned out that Obama only won the presidency because all the machines were rigged, it would be depressing even if was the best possible outcome.
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fbmf wrote:
Maxus wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:Fairly certain that fuckwit deserves all the enthusiastic harrowing the world can offer.
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I can't argue with you, Shrap.
So if you agree he deserves it, why do you object to him recieving it?

Game On,
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I object to how readily the long knives came out, more or less.

I think that, yes, making sure the Little League and park understands how he views special-needs kids and their mothers is the right thing to do, because that kind of vitriol doesn't stay buttoned down and he doesn't need to say that sort of thing to a kid, or in front of 'normal kids'. That kind of shit sticks with a kid--I know from personal experience. I had a elementary-school PE teacher call me a liar because I was ADHD and I -still- grit my teeth when I remember it.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over this jackass's boss being informed. I'm pretty sure his employer HAS been notified, but I think that's getting at the outer limit of acceptability.

But it's just a little unnerving to watch folks who I know are normally quite nice and levelheaded go up in flames in a matter of hours. Or maybe seeing them cheer at the modern equivalent of a lynching.
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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Hearing someone say "women exist to make babies and bad things happened to your children because god hates you" probably should make nice and levelheaded people go up in flames. There comes a point where restraint is the greater of two evils, and that is definitely past it. I'm not particularly comfortable with the idea of Facebook/Twitter lynchmobs (because they're just as often aimed at people who don't deserve them), but on the other hand we live in a world where being a total shithead to the people around you is incredibly easy to get away with.
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@Maxus
Quick question, are you aware of the connotations in using "long knives"?
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Stahlseele wrote:@Maxus
Quick question, are you aware of the connotations in using "long knives"?
I actually became aware of the meaning this morning because of the facts. extension on my browser - it tells a piece of new trivia every day.
facts. wrote:The Night of Long Knives took place in the summer of 1934 in Germany. It was a meticulously prepared and highly efficient series of political murders perpetrated by the Nazi Regime. The purge is also known as Operation Hummingbird, as the codeword that let loose the execution squads was "Kolibri" (German for hummingbird).
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Stahlseele wrote:@Maxus
Quick question, are you aware of the connotations in using "long knives"?
While he may or may not have known what long knives implies, it's not like he as even the most overblown user of the term this month on TGD, since some fuck (I can't remember who) was talking about how I pulled out the long knives on anyone who insults the person I was insulting in the post he quoted to make that accusation.

I mean, at least he was describing an actual attack against someone.
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Maj wrote:
Stahlseele wrote:@Maxus
Quick question, are you aware of the connotations in using "long knives"?
I actually became aware of the meaning this morning because of the facts. extension on my browser - it tells a piece of new trivia every day.
facts. wrote:The Night of Long Knives took place in the summer of 1934 in Germany. It was a meticulously prepared and highly efficient series of political murders perpetrated by the Nazi Regime. The purge is also known as Operation Hummingbird, as the codeword that let loose the execution squads was "Kolibri" (German for hummingbird).
I hadn't been aware of the exact origins of the term, actually.

That's interesting, for sure. Lemme say, then, that I didn't like how quickly everyone whipped out a switchblade on the fellow.

Also, update: So he's banned from the Little League/Park and he is, in fact, dealing with blowback at work. And other places, too, apparently.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.

--The horror of Mario

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I'm sort of generally opposed to people getting fired over their dumb comments online, or really anything they do not at work. I mean, I advocate that actual felons and murderers and shit shouldn't be denied jobs because they used to murder people, I don't think I can really advocate for people starving to death in gutters over having said dumb misogynistic shit online.

More specifically, I expect that firing them over their misogynism is going to make them blame women for it or whatever, and correct their behavior zero percent.
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I can understand your discomfort, but it still seems better than the time when maybe people would have frowned in concern, but not actually spoken up and called him on it.
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SlyJohnny wrote:I can understand your discomfort, but it still seems better than the time when maybe people would have frowned in concern, but not actually spoken up and called him on it.
I'm not saying it's better than any specific time in the past, I'm saying that it's not a productive or appropriate response.
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What about the other employees (potentially disabled) who have to put up with that guy's shit, though? Even if getting fired doesn't improve that guys outlook, it'd be nice for anyone that patronises that business and wants to not feel like an asshole, not to mention the culture of the people that work there.
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SlyJohnny wrote:What about the other employees (potentially disabled) who have to put up with that guy's shit, though? Even if getting fired doesn't improve that guys outlook, it'd be nice for anyone that patronises that business and wants to not feel like an asshole, not to mention the culture of the people that work there.
1) I specifically said that I am against firing people for things they do or say not at work. This obviously wouldn't apply to things he does or says at work.

2) I am a hardcore ... I don't know, jobist? I don't want my cashiers to be friendly, I want them to scan my items without talking except as needed. So the idea that some guy at some store might be thinking something that's not okay to think and therefore the customer should be mad is just not even something I'm likely to ever support.

For the purposes of employment, people should be evaluated on doing a job not being good people. I don't want people fired for voting for Trump (or any Republican ever), even though by definition anyone who does so is a monstrous creature that is making the world worse.

This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LiDTKEF1ek

But replace it with apparently think the things the customer wants too.
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Kaelik wrote:2) I am a hardcore ... I don't know, jobist? I don't want my cashiers to be friendly, I want them to scan my items without talking except as needed.
No, I completely get that and agree, but when you semi-publicly make racist declarations or make aggressive statements about the mentally disabled with a listed employment to a company, and then your statements get publicised and the company decides "you know what, maybe we won't go to bat in the press for some racist cashier we can easily replace, and in not doing so we'll create a better corporate culture (and also not lose business)" I think that's fair enough.

I'm talking about hate speech specifically, not whether or not we think a cashier was sufficiently nice to us while ringing up our butt cream, or whether we approve of them personally.
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