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There's an extremely recent extremely big actual warish offensive going on in Palestine and Isreal right now, specifically out of Gaza.

It appears in a very we don't know what is going on in the early stages sense that Hamas has broken out of Gaza and started taking settlements in the nearby area and the Israeli military has been backfooted. No doubt they are/will respond with mass murder and blowing up every hospital and house they can find at some point, but in the near term they have to decide if they want to do actual ground war too or not.

That means it's time for every person in the US government (or anywhere else) to announce that Ukraine must be destroyed and Russia are the true heroes except they put Palestine in the place of the word Ukraine and Isreal in the place of Russia, because it turns out everyone loves military conquest as long as you win the conquest.

Zelensky is doing some dumb thing about how terrorism is the worst thing ever (where the terrorism in question is soldiers with AKs seizing land, which you know...... is a lot like a war, not really terrorism, why are resistance movements against occupiers terrorism even when they do it with soldiers again? Because they aren't white?) Fetterman and every other democrat is doing "I unequivocably condemn this UNPROVOKED attack" about the most provoked attack that has ever existed in all of history and even Sanders is condemnding the "horrifying" attack because there is no justification for violence apparently! Did you know there is no justification for violence? Weird that all of the Israeli violence seemed to be justified!

(Sanders will condemn your average Israeli explicitily genocidal bombing run against Gaza, but apparently doesn't consider a permanent seige on Gaza by snipers shooting every child that comes within line of sight of their guns violence that needed any condemnation.)

This is a catastrophic situation. This single attack will be the propaganda piece they use to push their extermination of Palestine into overdrive. All of those pre-emptive attacks and bullshit and they still got caught by Hamas with their pants down. I'm already getting the propaganda pouring into my media feeds with several videos dedicated to the storied history of the US and Israel. Of course the lesson that's going to get taken away from this isn't the obvious one, that this is the natural consequence of policy decisions and slow burning genocide, but this is validation for past atrocities and future ones.

MGuy wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:50 am

This is a catastrophic situation. This single attack will be the propaganda piece they use to push their extermination of Palestine into overdrive. All of those pre-emptive attacks and bullshit and they still got caught by Hamas with their pants down. I'm already getting the propaganda pouring into my media feeds with several videos dedicated to the storied history of the US and Israel. Of course the lesson that's going to get taken away from this isn't the obvious one, that this is the natural consequence of policy decisions and slow burning genocide, but this is validation for past atrocities and future ones.

I mean yeah, the Israeli response to this is "our explicit policy called mowing the grass where every few years we mass murder as many Palestinians in Gaza as we can and destroy all their hospitals and stuff to make sure they never have the manpower or resources to build any coherent military that can oppose our permanent seige of Gaza didn't work, guess we have to literally kill every single Palestinian in Gaza" instead of "what if mass murdering thousands of people and blowing up all their hospitals might convince them to try to break out past our seige with low grade weapons even if it probably doesn't work."

Impressive how the narrative switched very quickly from "evil Hamas has captured villages" to just claiming the people armed with guns trying to take villages were terrorists doing terrorism, because they didn't hold the land when the tanks showed up, because they realized that was much better for their propaganda which they are going to need to justify their acceleration of the genocide.

It doesnt take any deep observation of israel to understand that every possible event ends up being applied as a justification for killing more palastinians.

You already identified it noticing that the palastinian attacks here whatever else you might think were provoked but the media israel and the west treat that provocation as invisiible.

Its a simple propagandistic rachet. All actions of one side are provocation and justification and no actions of the other side ever count.

And hey its not like israel has not been rather obviously stepping up the extermination rehtoric for years now. But whatever new atrocity they do do will be in their and the wests view excused by whatever is happening when they decide to do it anyway.

We have officially entered the "Actually, stop talking about how hurting civilians is wrong" phase because Israel has announced their plan which is, and I am being extremely literal and not exaggerating at all:

"Palestinians are animals, not human beings, so we will kill every single person in Gaza by making sure no food passes our seige lines."

Suddenly all the "it's bad to kill civilians" people are real quiet and the NYT is actively censoring Israeli government officials to make them sound less evil.

In some mild US news, the Biden admin has announced they will help genocide as many Palestinians as possible by fast tracking more bombs to the IDF and moving a carrier group off the coast to help Isreal sink any boats attempting to feed anyone in Gaza.

No food, water, or electricity for the more than 2 million people in the open-air prison of Gaza (though apparently they do get some electricity from sources other than Israel so they can hopefully keep their hospitals open to treat the victims of Israel's mass murder campaign). Bibi told people in Gaza to leave as well, which is dark as his fucking country won't let the people in Gaza leave.

Also heard some other fucker call the Palestinian people barbarians and that they would be fought against like barbarians. Looks like they're going to try and respond with even more genocide, in spite of having like 150 Israeli citizens and soldiers who are being held by Hamas. Israel truly does not give a shit about preserving human life, even the lives of its own people.

Want to know political incompetence?
Look no further than Germany today.

The Government is on Israels side nonimally because we kind of have to after the Holocaust.
And then when the UN Human Rights Committee did a minute of silence AGAINST Israel?
Guess who joined in. Yep. The GERMAN REPRESENTATIVE . . .

Another german Politician called helping Israel anti muslim right wing racist rethoric . . .


I wish i were making this shit up.

Well, helping Israel [as in helping the state of Israel, not as in providing humanitarian aid to human beings] is anti-muslim and right-wing and racist. Israel is a brutal, genocidal settler colony which has systematically stolen Palestinian homes since 1948 and has locked Gazans in an open air prison since the mid 2000s in conditions that have reduced the average age to 19. Every atrocity alleged of Hamas has been committed by the IDF a hundred times over. The facts are pretty stark; Israel's PR depends on suppressing them (well, that and conflating opposition to a settler colony with antisemitism)

But not helping Israel is anti-jewish and racist and right-wing and about as bad as spying on your allies.
Especially as germany, people tend to frown upon such things.

Look i know there are genuine outright antisemite nazis out there. But as a general rule when someone is being bludgeoned in the media for being anti Israel its almost always a blunt tool against the left.

Has the UK been invisible the last 5 years?

Neo Phonelobster Prime wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:55 pm

Has the UK been invisible the last 5 years?

We could be so lucky

The UK was mostly seen as an annoyance and problem for the EU even before brexit.
Nobody really cared about them for the most part over here.

Stahlseele wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:33 pm

But not helping Israel is anti-jewish and racist and right-wing and about as bad as spying on your allies.
Especially as germany, people tend to frown upon such things.

In 95% of the countries in the world the right wing supports Israel more then the left.

Hungary and Poland support Israel, Netanyahu is fine meeting up with Marine Le Pen.

Israel is an currently existing ethnostate in the active process of genociding people based on ethnicity. Right wingers love it because they get to say "see Ethnostates are good, and also we get to banish all the jews in OUR (X ethnostate) country to Israel because that's where they belong."

And then Netenyahyu will come visit and give a speech and say "It's true, all the Jews in France must move to Israel so we can build more settlements, and if you stay in France surely you will be holocausted because France should be an ethnostate and will become one and it is imperative for all jews to move to the jewish ethnostate so we can all live in our ethnostates in peace.*

*Peace does not apply to racial and ethnic minorities, also as soon as we finish killing all our minorities we will invade some other country."

Kaelik wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:45 am

*Peace does not apply to racial and ethnic minorities, also as soon as we finish killing all our minorities we will invade some other country."

Eh, wouldn't be surprised if the fractured off a group of their own that currently isn't seen as a minority to oppress instead.

A bunch of the NATO bloc just accepted a bunch of "white" refugees who will doubtless suddenly become Slavic Asiatic hordes a few years after the end of the Russo-Ukrainian War.

Or the Ukraine war and the Palestine war both escalate and spiral and the world erupts into the next world war idk. Seems a bit early to call that one.

Thaluikhain wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:54 am

Kaelik wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:45 am

*Peace does not apply to racial and ethnic minorities, also as soon as we finish killing all our minorities we will invade some other country."

Eh, wouldn't be surprised if the fractured off a group of their own that currently isn't seen as a minority to oppress instead.

To be fair, Israel has already done both and they haven't even finished their first extermination!

To the extent that Israel pretends to be a jewish ethnostate, they literally sterilize black jews who move there and oppress the palestinian jews and african jews. Also they are squatting on a bunch of land they already conquered from Syria.

Kaelik wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:17 pm

Thaluikhain wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:54 am

Kaelik wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:45 am

*Peace does not apply to racial and ethnic minorities, also as soon as we finish killing all our minorities we will invade some other country."

Eh, wouldn't be surprised if the fractured off a group of their own that currently isn't seen as a minority to oppress instead.

To be fair, Israel has already done both and they haven't even finished their first extermination!

To the extent that Israel pretends to be a jewish ethnostate, they literally sterilize black jews who move there and oppress the palestinian jews and african jews. Also they are squatting on a bunch of land they already conquered from Syria.

True, doesn't have to be an either/or situation.

Fun fact. There are over 400 americans in Gaza right now, and the official US position is "hope you die, fuck you for visiting your family, you aren't a real american" because the US government supports the genocide of palestinians so much that it won't even make an attempt to rescuse literal american citizens from the ongoing mass murder.

Neo Phonelobster Prime wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:55 pm

Look i know there are genuine outright antisemite nazis out there. But as a general rule when someone is being bludgeoned in the media for being anti Israel its almost always a blunt tool against the left.

I dunno, sounds like you're just making excuses for all these antisemitic nazi rabbis who have been criticizing Israel nonstop for decades.

https://www.semafor.com/article/10/13/2 ... t-conflict

We've fully entered the post 9/11 all muslims are evil and we will make sure that we remove them from sight era again because we love genocide so much.

That Menedez by the way? The Daughter of the Senator currently indicted for taking gold bar bribes from Egypt. Naked corruption and nepotism stacked on top of each other if fine so long as you aren't a muslim.

Isreal has just bombed southern lebanon, and reports from at least two sources are that the IDF is attacking locations in the West Bank as well as it's ongoing bombing of Gaza. At least 50 dead in the West Bank.

Thank god the US is around to support this genocidal project while even Israeli domestic politics is treating the government as going way too far.

Kaelik wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:01 pm

We've fully entered the post 9/11 all muslims are evil and we will make sure that we remove them from sight era again because we love genocide so much.

https://old.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapit ... honouring/ a Palestinian author

i would like to tell you all that i am surprised by that . .
but no, that would be a pretty blatant lie at this point..

Israel has moved on from it's 117 attacks on healthcare facilities and ambulances over the last week to directly bombing the hospital complex killing 200-300 people.

Can't wait for Biden to say "wow this terrible accident happened, I'm going to give them five bigger bombs to drop on the hospital complex" and for everyone to keep pretending that the Biden admin isn't completely supportive of genocide.

I saw something about Iran giving warnings to Israel. This could be signs of a possible escalation between them.