Friendship is Magic

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:34 pm

The Finale should have been a 3 or 4 part thing, that much is basically agreed upon by all.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:51 pm

One of the writers said as much. If it were up to me, it would have been like season 1 (Ticket Master and Suited for Success were preludes to Best Night Ever.)

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:21 pm

yeah, that would have worked too

Voss · Post by **Voss** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:45 am

Desdan_Mervolam wrote:The first half of the finale was not bad. Would have been better if it got an entire episode, and if it had a solution that wasn't so blindingly obvious. Seriously, pre-air leaks I heard made me think that Twilight was going to put everyone where they were supposed to be as a stopgap measure and then we'd get 10 minutes or so of people fumblefutzing through what should be second nature to them except their Cutie Marks are now pulling them in another direction (So they're not complete failures like the people who got their marks, but they're still amusingly inept), while Twilight works out a spell to fix everything, and that Twilight would earn her wings by writing a new spell from scratch and not patching a broken spell someone else wrote.

The second half of the episode wasn't worth compressing the first half, seriously it was basically 10-15 minutes of everyone gushing about how Awesome and Special Twilight Sparkle is, like she's some sort of self-insert character from a bad fanfic.

I disagree. The second half (ascension, coronation and 'needing your friends' message) was largely fine (though it needed more of a lead in)... the first half was the part that was lacking. Basically the problem that was introduced was laughable- it made the 'Cutie Pox' episode look like a masterpiece- at least in that one everyone acted appropriately. There was a distinct problem caused by established character motivations (AB wanting her tat), initial awed reactions (you've achieved your goal, good for you!) followed by scared reactions (help my sister, panic from the townsfolk) and then a solution based on the appropriate moral lesson (don't steal from zebras, bitches).

The setup in this was, essentially, random.
The other 5 are suddenly wrong, which happened because Twilight _read aloud_.
The town turns surly (rather than panicking, which is their usual reaction) because a) rain, and b) pinkie pie isn't hypering at them (which given how many times this annoys the townsfolk, is pretty inconsistent). And also, the other Apples do nothing to stop their farm from being ruined in the space of a day.

Then everything is fixed by each pony taking her job back - not even their talent, but their actual fucking day job. And then on a completely unrelated note, inspiration strikes, Twilight fixes the spell and the second half ensues.

It could have worked well if there had been a reference or two past the mysterious book at the end of Crystal empire. Even something as simple as why Twilight is working on the fucking apple to orange spell, and then something with Zecora during Magical Duel. Or why Twilight is effectively in charge of arranging the Olympic venue. And then a full episode with a real problem followed by a part 2 with 15 minutes of resolution and the second half that actually aired.

Desdan_Mervolam · Post by **Desdan_Mervolam** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:31 am

The idea behind the first half is really interesting and compelling, and also completely wasted. Just how much of a pony's destiny, ability and identity is tied up that magical tattoo that appears sometime in their adolescence? It's a good question, but it wasn't really answered by the episode

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:14 am

Desdan_Mervolam wrote:The idea behind the first half is really interesting and compelling, and also completely wasted. Just how much of a pony's destiny, ability and identity is tied up that magical tattoo that appears sometime in their adolescence? It's a good question, but it wasn't really answered by the episode

Yeah. I was thinking something like that, too. And I was a little perplexed because it seemed to be contrary to what we're taught in all the stories of the Cutie Mark Crusaders.

Season One, Episode 18 (The Show Stoppers), we see what each of the three young ponies are good at (AB = construction/interior design, SB = singing/dancing, S = stunts/scootering). The entire was about the fact that your cutie mark reflects your recognition of what you're good at, and your desire to keep doing it for the rest of your life.

A few episodes later in "The Cutie Mark Chronicles," we watch the mane six tell the CMCs all about that moment of epiphany that led to the appearance of their cutie marks.

But apparently, once you have that epiphany, you're locked into that line of work forever and feel compelled to do it even if you don't really want to.

Another thing about the finale cutie mark thing... I thought that Rarity's cutie mark was representative of her ability to both find unique and valuable things and make unique and valuable things. She interpreted that through fashion design. It seems to me that if she were a seamstress, her cutie mark wouldn't be gems, but something more like a sewing machine or a dress or something.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:37 am

If cutiemarks worked like that, pinkie pie would be making balloons/ballon animales all the time and nothing else . .

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:46 pm

Maj wrote:Another thing about the finale cutie mark thing... I thought that Rarity's cutie mark was representative of her ability to both find unique and valuable things and make unique and valuable things. She interpreted that through fashion design. It seems to me that if she were a seamstress, her cutie mark wouldn't be gems, but something more like a sewing machine or a dress or something.

Keep in mind that her talent is more about bringing the beauty out of things, and her trigger event was her magic hijacking her body to lead her to a giant gemstone. Also, that's her unicorn spell- detect gemstone, she just enjoys fashion design.

I think Applejack could be good at non-aggrarian things, she does have a good head for business, after all, but her cutie mark is apples because she feels it's her duty as a member of the Apple family to work the family farm. I still think it's vaguely possible that a pony's mark could, at least theoretically, change, but I doubt it'll be addressed.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:59 pm

In my eyes, a Cutie-Mark is basically like a Perk-Skill in Fallout . .
It's something you can already do pretty well and then when you relize that you get a substantial boost to it, but it does not stop you from doing other things at all . .
If it did, Rarity would be a Miner instead of a Fashionista.
And all Unicorns can do, technically, all kinds of magic.
With some practice, Rarity could very well learn some of Twilights Spells.
Evidence: She can use Telekinesis to do stuff just fine.
She just has a natural knack for getting her Magic to resonate with Gems to find them.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:06 pm

What would make me watch more than a few random episodes of MLP? Jack Kirby! That's what....I mean who.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:17 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do6RDSwa ... r_embedded
disgustingly sweet x.x

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:13 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdiCqDVUxI

this one is for us

Count Arioch the 28th · Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:59 pm

Am I a bad brony because I don't want to go to a brony con ever? I mean, seeing the art and crafts and stuff the fandom has produced seems pretty cool, but I don't want to sing songs from the show, and I'm not really a friendly guy and get nervous when people I don't know are all up in my grill. Also I have never been that concerned with meeting celebrities (I gotta admit though, I saw Kevin Sorbo ad Gencon one year, I had no idea how skinny that guy actually was, he looked buff on camera. I could definitely beat his ass...)

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:21 pm

if so, then so am i . .

Count Arioch the 28th · Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:04 am

Season 3 is now on Netflix.

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:33 am

which is nice for everybody who can get netflix and has not seen it on youtube already ^^

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:42 pm

Thanks for the heads up, CA. We've seen them all, but Giovanni prefers to use Netflix because it's easier to navigate.

theye1 · Post by **theye1** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:40 am

Link

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:50 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd4D0aR_W9k
nope, still don't get that one . .

Stahlseele · Post by **Stahlseele** » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:28 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdeMkg_5m9w
And now something for people who know how to bake stuff.

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:01 am

Oh, sweet! My son watches Nerdy Nummies, but I don't think he's seen that one yet.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:51 am

No links because I didn't save it and don't really want this to come up in my browsing history, but someone has designed a lifesized Princess Celestia sex doll and is looking for someone to actually build it. What brings that to extra levels of squick is that he's requesting it be made with actual horse hair.

Alright, we as bronies need to stand united on this: It is too much to "love and tolerate" someone who says "I love ponies so much I want to skin one and pull its hide over an effigy so I can have sex with it!"

Before anyone asks, yes there is a company that makes a fleshlight based off mare anatomy. I think it might be too much to post a link, but the choices of color have names like "Nightfall Purple", and "Dashingly Blue". Yeah, I think we all need to step back and rethink our life choices at this point...

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:54 am

Bad Dragon's fleshlights aren't really anything to worry about. The Celestia effigy is... far, far too much.

Also, probably really itchy.

Count Arioch the 28th · Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:59 am

It's not so much that the fleshlights exist that bothers me, it's the fact they're clearly marketing them to bronies that makes me think...

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:02 am

Just going after a known audience. Also it was kind of an easter promotion, the colours fit. I mean, the company makes dragon cocks, making pony fleshlights isn't really that out there.