How to date like a nerd

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:54 pm

Molochio wrote:This deviation into the consideration of Uber's possible flaws and or ego based short comings is irrelevant, as clearly the girl is attracted to him regardless of them.
Let us then remain on course with ideas on how to better entertain her since she is so enamored, yes?

It is precisely uber's ego which causes him to act like the so-called "alpha male." Lessening his ego will lessen his machismo tendencies and allow him to function as a normal human being, thus giving him the opportunity to woo this woman with his normal human tendencies (that is, his nerdiness). I maintain my position not to correct uber from his flaws but as advice in his quest to woo this woman. Your casual dismissal might as well say, "Well, she's attracted to him despite him being an 'alpha male,' so there's no need to change anything," thereby making the thread irrelevant and the point moot.

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:09 am

Vebyast · Post by **Vebyast** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:17 am

If she plays video games at all, and you're planning on long-term, try playing through a really well-written, funny, non-grindy RPG over five or ten dates. Of course, you have to be absolutely certain that she likes video games, and you have to find something else to do the instant she even thinks about getting bored.

RobbyPants · Post by **RobbyPants** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:30 pm

Vebyast wrote:If she plays video games at all, and you're planning on long-term, try playing through a really well-written, funny, non-grindy RPG over five or ten dates. Of course, you have to be absolutely certain that she likes video games, and you have to find something else to do the instant she even thinks about getting bored.

I'm curious: what games do you have in mind? If nothing else, this could be nice for my own purposes.

Count Arioch the 28th · Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:11 pm

Not to defend PR too much, but his advice about not trying so hard to maintain an image is actually good advice. It's hard to tell since I've never met Ubernoob personally, but he does give that impression over the internet of trying very hard to fit in.

Molochio · Post by **Molochio** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:15 pm

Have you ever considered opening the, "What's fucked up about Ubernoob" thread?

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:02 pm

Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Not to defend PR too much

I'll win you over yet.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:05 pm

Molochio wrote:Have you ever considered opening the, "What's fucked up about Ubernoob" thread?

I have... but then I'd have to make 20 other topics to other people. SO I scratched that idea out.

But do you mind if reevaluate the plan and use you as the Guinea Pig?

Vebyast · Post by **Vebyast** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:20 pm

RobbyPants wrote:
Vebyast wrote:If she plays video games at all, and you're planning on long-term, try playing through a really well-written, funny, non-grindy RPG over five or ten dates. Of course, you have to be absolutely certain that she likes video games, and you have to find something else to do the instant she even thinks about getting bored.
I'm curious: what games do you have in mind? If nothing else, this could be nice for my own purposes.

Mass Effect 2 works pretty well; there isn't very much grinding, tactics and situational awareness are really important (so she can say "take cover over there" or "watch out for the guy with the rocket launcher!" while you're shooting things), the writing is hilarious and awesome, and the dialogue trees everywhere are a really good way to get her completely involved and will give you things to talk about even later.

The first two Golden Sun games would also be perfect if they weren't gameboy games; if you have a way to get them on the TV or a computer monitor, or if you can figure out a way to play a gameboy together, working through the puzzles together is tons of fun. The fights also don't proceed until you hit "execute party turn", so they're good opportunities for the two of you to collaborate on planning. You might also have to do a little grinding between dates occasionally, but that's kind of unusual.

Okami and Zelda also work, though I wouldn't lead with them; they don't get her involved quite as much. They're skill-based, so she can't grab the controller if she doesn't like how you're doing things, and she can only really participate when you're doing puzzles or trying to figure out a quest. However, they're beautiful to look at, and the puzzles are surprisingly well-suited to team problem-solving (she draws a map while you walk around, or she figures the room's puzzle out while you're busy keeping Link alive and cleaning out enemies).

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:46 pm

Marvel Ultimate Alliance is a great series of games for co-op and easy to play and a good grind if necessary.

Also, it is an oldie but a goodie. Gauntlet on the x-box.

Molochio · Post by **Molochio** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:46 pm

Cynic wrote:
Molochio wrote:Have you ever considered opening the, "What's fucked up about Ubernoob" thread?
I have... but then I'd have to make 20 other topics to other people. SO I scratched that idea out.

But do you mind if reevaluate the plan and use you as the Guinea Pig?

Oh, by all means, indulge yourself.
I relish public spectacles.

Orion · Post by **Orion** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:02 pm

My girlfriend and I had a great time going through Final Fantasy 8. A game with many tantalizing things to grind for, but absolutely no need to grind to get through the main plot. Of course, part of the fun for her was that all her friends say I'm *exactly* like Squall

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:05 pm

Mass Effect 2 works pretty well; there isn't very much grinding, tactics and situational awareness are really important (so she can say "take cover over there" or "watch out for the guy with the rocket launcher!" while you're shooting things), the writing is hilarious and awesome, and the dialogue trees everywhere are a really good way to get her completely involved and will give you things to talk about even later.

No. Single-player is a no-no. MUA2 is a good suggestion.

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:11 pm

There's this one game on XBLA, Limbo that despite being singleplayer works astoundingly well as a group experience with three other people. The fact that it scared the fuck out of us so that nobody would let me give up the controller probably helped matters. Damn amazing game though. It's all about noticing your surroundings, so pretty much everybody jumped in with regularity "hey try <this>".

Vebyast · Post by **Vebyast** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:26 pm

Psychic Robot wrote:No. Single-player is a no-no. MUA2 is a good suggestion.

Multiplayer only works if the other player can actually play the video game in question. Watching a video game can be less entertaining than playing, sure, but continually failing and watching the other coop player do everything is even worse. That's why I recommend RPGs, especially ones with good enough writing and dialogue trees that you can just sit back and watch them.

Of course, if your girlfriend actually can keep up with you in a first-person shooter or an arena fighting game, have at.

Thought: something like Fire Emblem could also work. Who has the controller doesn't matter, because all of the real work is done out-of-game and you can talk about it.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:22 am

Molochio wrote:
Oh, by all means, indulge yourself.
I relish public spectacles.

I'll let you start on it. I'll get a couple drinks in me and then continue let you make a fool out of yourself.

erik · Post by **erik** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:59 am

Vebyast wrote:If she plays video games at all, and you're planning on long-term, try playing through a really well-written, funny, non-grindy RPG over five or ten dates. Of course, you have to be absolutely certain that she likes video games, and you have to find something else to do the instant she even thinks about getting bored.

Disgaea? Or is that too grindy? Can alternate who has the controller for battles.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:05 am

My cousin says the best games to watch if you aren't a gamer are...

Final Fantasy X and Red Dead Redemption. Something with enough character talking and all that you could maintain interest.

I'd also add Tales of Symphonia on there. My sister ended up sitting in the room to watch while I was playing it. And we maintained that arrangement for almost two weeks...Symphonia can also be multiplayer, too. It's not -that- great, but it works.

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:29 am

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:01 pm

Owod. Preferably Awod with goth sexiness added in. But otherwise Owod.

Count Arioch the 28th · Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:05 pm

Psychic Robot wrote:
Count Arioch the 28th wrote:Not to defend PR too much
I'll win you over yet.

Well, you haven't called me names nearly as much as you used it, it might happen. My anger with people tends to die off quickly when they aren't doing something that pisses me off right now.

sabs · Post by **sabs** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:39 pm

Owod, Toreador clan book, maybe Gangrel if she's the outdoorsy type, Brujah if she's independent and rebellious. Tremere is either "avoid like hell, or she'll definitely want to play this.. not much of inbetween"

Avoid Sabbat unless she gives off Bitter Dark Goth vibes. Girls like playing Toreadors. They're a nice combo of bad-ass and Chic.

To Avoid:
Malkav, Nosferatu, Ventrue, Sabbat, Samedi and the rest.

I recommend just the Vampire the Masquerade book, and maybe Toreador, Gangrel and Brujah clan books. Though you're better off pretending the Brujah clan book never happened.

Shazbot79 · Post by **Shazbot79** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:51 am

ubernoob wrote:So, the girl I'm seeing knows that I'm a nerd and she likes that. She also knows I'm a raging alpha male and dislikes that.

I'm kind of skeptical about that.

She claims to dislike your alpha male tendencies, and yet she wound up with you rather than your nerd friends.

What were her former SO's like?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:19 pm

Shazbot79 · Post by **Shazbot79** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:51 pm

ubernoob wrote:DJs and intellectuals. I don't *have* nerd friends here to speak of.

Ahh...these things don't necessarily preclude alpha males. Particularly intellectuals, since there is a pretty big competitive streak there.

I'm wondering if perhaps she does have a thing for alpha male types, and perhaps doesn't realize it.

The reason I'm questioning this is that I used to date a girl who professed to hate "alpha male" types. The problem here being that in person, I am pretty brash, aggressive and dominant in social arenas, which are traits that I would associate with "alpha-ness", and this of course was the reason she was drawn to me in the first place. When I called her attention to this apparent contradiction, she reasoned: "yer' but...yer' but...yer' but...you don't play sports and stuff".

Granted, this girl wasn't the most...*ahem*...introspective person out there. I'm going to give your girl the benefit of the doubt and assume that she is much smarter than this, but people often have trouble pin-pointing exactly what it is that attracts them to certain people, so I have to wonder.

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