Pathfinder writers have strange sexual fetishes.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu May 26, 2011 8:07 pm

DSMatticus wrote:The duration's only one round. I think the most appropriate use for it as a party prank, leaving your befuddled victim to try and explain to their peers why they just started making out with the help in the middle of the dining hall.

...I didn't notice that. That's not even making out, that's grabbing something and kissing it, before wondering why you just did that. It might be amusing as a wand at a party, but...

hogarth · Post by **hogarth** » Thu May 26, 2011 8:48 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:
DSMatticus wrote:The duration's only one round. I think the most appropriate use for it as a party prank, leaving your befuddled victim to try and explain to their peers why they just started making out with the help in the middle of the dining hall.
...I didn't notice that. That's not even making out, that's grabbing something and kissing it, before wondering why you just did that. It might be amusing as a wand at a party, but...

In theory, you could get an enemy to "kiss and caress" a dangerous object, if you had one handy. E.g. something on fire or coated with poison.

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Thu May 26, 2011 9:03 pm

hogarth wrote:
Prak_Anima wrote:
DSMatticus wrote:The duration's only one round. I think the most appropriate use for it as a party prank, leaving your befuddled victim to try and explain to their peers why they just started making out with the help in the middle of the dining hall.
...I didn't notice that. That's not even making out, that's grabbing something and kissing it, before wondering why you just did that. It might be amusing as a wand at a party, but...
In theory, you could get an enemy to "kiss and caress" a dangerous object, if you had one handy. E.g. something on fire or coated with poison.

Fire elemental. Mummy.

DSMatticus · Post by **DSMatticus** » Thu May 26, 2011 11:42 pm

"Caress the bottom of that cliff. With your face."

K · Post by K » Fri May 27, 2011 5:43 am

It basically gives you the enemy's move action and stops their standard, so most days you are going to make them go hump a rock somewhere within sight.

In the best of circumstances, you might be able to get them to toss themselves off a cliff or molest some dangerous beast or grab some dangerous object.

By the rules, fire elementals can be hugged without getting burned. It makes no sense, but there you are. You have to punch them to get burned (unarmed or natural weapon attacks).

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Fri May 27, 2011 3:54 pm

Would hugging be grappling though?

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri May 27, 2011 9:34 pm

K wrote:It basically gives you the enemy's move action and stops their standard, so most days you are going to make them go hump a rock somewhere within sight.

In the best of circumstances, you might be able to get them to toss themselves off a cliff or molest some dangerous beast or grab some dangerous object.

By the rules, fire elementals can be hugged without getting burned. It makes no sense, but there you are. You have to punch them to get burned (unarmed or natural weapon attacks).

Well, half-fire elementals are suddenly explained a lot better...

K · Post by K » Sat May 28, 2011 9:24 am

fectin wrote:Would hugging be grappling though?

You can grapple and pin fire elementals without taking damage. You only take damage if you try to make an unarmed or natural weapon attack. You can grapple them and stab them with light weapons all you want though.

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Sat May 28, 2011 3:47 pm

K wrote:
fectin wrote:Would hugging be grappling though?
You can grapple and pin fire elementals without taking damage. You only take damage if you try to make an unarmed or natural weapon attack. You can grapple them and stab them with light weapons all you want though.

....

That's dumb. That's really dumb.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat May 28, 2011 9:12 pm

fectin wrote:
K wrote:
fectin wrote:Would hugging be grappling though?
You can grapple and pin fire elementals without taking damage. You only take damage if you try to make an unarmed or natural weapon attack. You can grapple them and stab them with light weapons all you want though.

....

That's dumb. That's really dumb.

Actually it just means that fire elementals are heat resistant bags of fire, and thus it's punching or clawing/biting/whatever that causes the heat to reach you in such a way as to actually burn you.

...ok, that's still dumb.