hogarth wrote:
I know. My point is that making poor choices should be just as laudable (or censurable) no matter what it says on your character sheet.
But if a player has spent character-building resources on "gets away with *thing* when no one else can", then no, he shouldn't necessarily be punished like just any other character.
Wait -- where does it say in ckafrica's suggestion that you're allowed to take "moderate lecherousy" if and only if you have an ability that negates the harmful results?
I must have been misreading.
"moderate lechrousy", on its face, sounds like it would be a Disadvantage. Which, definitionally, would just be the specific excuse why the PC screws over his self/party.
But based on this part of the discussion at large, I was assuming he was trying to give an example of an ability that lets you get away with stuff - in this case, make sleazy passes at the queen without her chopping off you head.
Oh well. Oops.
Anyway, the point I was trying to make was already made by Kaelik (his was just better articulated).
silva wrote:I think what Blade is arguing here is that SR matrix is playable. I dont deny that, since Ive played it a lot myself.
But you should deny it. That's been a heavily discussed point for years; SR Matrix rules are literally unplayable. Anyone who's ever played didn't use the rules, they used house rules and wore Shadowrun's skin like they were Buffalo Bill.
Well, by playable I mean "if youre willing to engage in a extremely complex mini-game that consume 1 hour of your real life for each 10 mins of game time", which I was when it was the only RPG game I knew, but soon found out better forms to optimize my gaming (and real life) time.
So, playable it actually is (even MERP is playable). The question here is: do you have what it takes to play it ? I dont. At least not anymore.
silva wrote:I think what Blade is arguing here is that SR matrix is playable. I dont deny that, since Ive played it a lot myself.
But you should deny it. That's been a heavily discussed point for years; SR Matrix rules are literally unplayable. Anyone who's ever played didn't use the rules, they used house rules and wore Shadowrun's skin like they were Buffalo Bill.
Well, by playable I mean "if youre willing to engage in a extremely complex mini-game that consume 1 hour of your real life for each 10 mins of game time"
And you're still wrong, because I am not beating around the bush when I say it's unplayable. If you got anything done in any amount of time, then you didn't use the actual SR Matrix rules.
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