Moments when a piece of entertainment completely lost you.

[Lago PARANOIA]

Prak Anima, you can read the whole sordid thing right here:

http://spideykicksbutt.com/DeepThoughts/OneMoreDay.html

http://sfdebris.com/everything/nmsm1.asp

Remember, Spider-Man made a deal with the devil to abort his baby.

Sorry for harping on this, it's just that I can't get over this. Oh sure, every now and then I forget about it for a few months, then I see Spider-Man on the shelves or something, and then I remember... I remember...

OH GOD WHYYYYY

[Ganbare Gincun]

Remember, Spider-Man made a deal with the devil to abort his baby.

Well, that seems completely reasonab- WAIT WHAT?

/facepalm

[Prak]

yeah, what crazy fucking situation did he have on his hands that the only situation was "Devil, I will give you my soul if you make my baby not exist"

[Ganbare Gincun]

yeah, what crazy fucking situation did he have on his hands that the only situation was "Devil, I will give you my soul if you make my baby not exist"

Wikipedia explains it all! And it's fucking retarded! TVTropes shines some light on the insanity behind this storyline:

In other ways, Joe Quesada is also an example of a slow Creator Breakdown. Issues dealing with his mother's death from cancer as a child left him idealizing mother figures and wishing he could have done anything to prevent it. Combined with his comments about marriage which seem to disparage his wife and marriage in general, one can only draw the conclusion that he desperately wishes he could trade in his wife for his mother. Which has led to several Wall Bangers like One More Day and having Jean Grey and The Wasp killed off under the guise their now widowed husbands are "more interesting" without them.

[Prak]

Peter and Mary Jane are given until midnight the following night to decide their answer and, after several hours agonizing over the choice, they agree to the deal, as long as knowledge of Peter's secret identity is erased from the world. Mary Jane also whispers to Mephisto another, unspecified offer in return for Mephisto putting Peter's life back exactly how it was and "[giving] him a chance at happiness." Finally, Mephisto also reveals them that his disguise as the little girl was in fact their soon-to-be-daughter, but they will never have her because of their decision.

I totally didn't read the actual comic, but if anything that sounds like Mary Jane adding "take away our child too, and give Pete [whatever]." Presumably Mephisto would have just made it so they didn't marry, and could conceivably have wound up together again anyway, so Mary put that up too, or something

[Neeeek]

Which has led to several Wall Bangers like One More Day and having Jean Grey and The Wasp killed off under the guise their now widowed husbands are "more interesting" without them.

He tried to make 2 guys more interesting by killing off the interesting half of each pair?

[Cynic]

maybe they became gay lovers and that was the interesting angle? how can two tightwads be made interesting by combining them into a tightwad couple.

[Ganbare Gincun]

Which has led to several Wall Bangers like One More Day and having Jean Grey and The Wasp killed off under the guise their now widowed husbands are "more interesting" without them.

He tried to make 2 guys more interesting by killing off the interesting half of each pair?

Once again, from TVTropes:

1) He evidently preferred Emma Frost being altered/derailed to more of a HeelFaceTurn and Spoiled Brat than even when she was a villain. So he "rewarded" Emma by sticking her into Jean's place after she died, including being Scott Summers's Love Interest, which started with them kissing over Jean's grave. With Jean's permission. From beyond the grave. The dead are apparently very forgiving of women who attempt to steal their husbands before they die!

2) He and Bendis had The Wasp killed off, again claiming that her now widowed husband, Hank Pym, is now "more interesting" without her. Considering that "more interesting" in Pym's case seems to involve taking his dead ex's code name and having an extremely squicky quasi-incestual relationship with a robot who was originally based on said ex (and reminds people of this fact more than once after the relationship has started), God only knows what they'll do if Quesada decides he's still not interesting enough.

[Username17]

I will give him Jean Grey. She needs to fucking stay dead, and Cyclops moving on with Emma Frost is a good career move for both of them.

The stuff they did with Frank Pym is revolting.

-Username17

[Lago PARANOIA]

Why do you think that Masashi Kishimoto hates women so much?

I mean, granted, shounen is sexist enough as it is, but the Naruto manga is notable by going above and beyond the call of duty. Like, the Naruto manga is willing to cause the plot to grind to a halt to remind us how inferior being a female is. His twin brother (also a mangaka) isn't anywhere as bad, so what's his problem? Did he get dumped and kicked in the nuts by his girlfriend in high school?

[Neeeek]

2) He and Bendis had The Wasp killed off, again claiming that her now widowed husband, Hank Pym, is now "more interesting" without her. Considering that "more interesting" in Pym's case seems to involve taking his dead ex's code name and having an extremely squicky quasi-incestual relationship with a robot who was originally based on said ex (and reminds people of this fact more than once after the relationship has started), God only knows what they'll do if Quesada decides he's still not interesting enough.

So, after having him suffer from crippling feelings of inadequacy due to teaming up with Thor, Iron Man and Hulk resulting in him deciding that getting big and strong was better than getting small (on a team with a couple of insanely strong people that had little in the way of stealth) which lead to his getting stuck at giant size, then having a mental breakdown that resulted in his getting married while clearly insane and creating a killer robot that proceeded to terrorize his friends and family for decades, then died (he got better), then feeling that he lost the confidence of his teammates, arranged for an ambush of the team by a new killer robot which his wife, who he started beating, has to save the lot of them from, then he got kidnapped by an old enemy and forced to build weapons for him upon whom he turned the tables and decided to retire as a superhero, then, meeting a new version of his original killer robot who wasn't a killer at all, adopts the new robot as a son and enjoys his new life as a scientist only to have his new son murdered by a older version of his killer robot, then get sucked into an alternate reality then back out, someone thought making Hank Pym's life worse was a good idea?

[Calibron]

Shitfuckingdamnit! This is why I don't read fucking comics! How can people put up with this horseshit?!

[Username17]

Shitfuckingdamnit! This is why I don't read fucking comics! How can people put up with this horseshit?!

I haven't been able to put up with Marvel since Secret War and haven't been able to put up with the X-Continuity since Jean Grey stopped being dead for the first time.

But I fucking love Booster Gold.

-Username17

[Lago PARANOIA]

I think I realize why Iron Man 2, despite entertaining me while I was watching it, left me with an empty feel a few hours or so after I left the theater.

The movie really wasn't about anything. The closest thing the movie had to a theme (Tony Stark alienating his friends over his alcoholism and impending death) suddenly stopped mattering over the course of the film.

I think that things would've worked out better if Tony didn't completely heal the rift between War Machine and Potts. Enough so that they wouldn't completely reject him but still not on the best terms. Like... he saved the day and all that... but that whole 'you're not as awesome as you think you are' speech from Nick Fury at the end hammered home the point that he really needed to become a better person and that he just got lucky--and there wouldn't be a second chance. Then the third movie (or the Avengers) could have been about Tony finally growing out of the worst parts of his dick tendencies... sort of ending up like Dr. Cox, the only character I like on Scrubs.

Also, I think that the movie should've taken an extra two minutes to hype Whiplash's physical skill--Justin Hammer should've left him in a room with like five guys and there should've been a scene earlier of Whiplash casually snapping arms and necks at the prison. That way Justin Hammer's pivotal 'my dumbassery came back to bite me' decision wouldn't have looked so forced.

Sometimes I think the movie's biggest problem was that it was a comic book movie whose audience didn't know it was a comic book movie. Some of the leaps in logic work for the genre but they need to be spelled out for the audience at large. There were plenty of times in the film where I went 'I understand where they were going with this, but I don't think they got it across well enough'.

[Neeeek]

I think that things would've worked out better if Tony didn't completely heal the rift between War Machine and Potts. Enough so that they wouldn't completely reject him but still not on the best terms. Like... he saved the day and all that... but that whole 'you're not as awesome as you think you are' speech from Nick Fury at the end hammered home the point that he really needed to become a better person and that he just got lucky--and there wouldn't be a second chance. Then the third movie (or the Avengers) could have been about Tony finally growing out of the worst parts of his dick tendencies... sort of ending up like Dr. Cox, the only character I like on Scrubs.

I don't. Rhodes felt guilty about basically stealing his suit, and Tony was working really hard to not kill him when the suit was trying to kill Tony. So he kinda had to forgive Tony for the rest of it.

Pepper is a tougher case. While Tony was being a dick to her for most of the movie, there are 3 things to remember: 1) Tony showed his degree of respect for and faith in her when he named her CEO of Stark Industries. 2) he thought he was dying, which make point 1 even stronger and makes acting like a complete ass actually forgivable. If a friend of yours starting acting like a jerk and then you found out they had cancer, the response isn't "stop being an ass" it's "oh my god, what can I do to help?". And when you find out they'll live, you are too happy to be pissed about it. 3) chicks quite routinely dig assholes. This isn't news.

[Lago PARANOIA]

I don't. Rhodes felt guilty about basically stealing his suit, and Tony was working really hard to not kill him when the suit was trying to kill Tony. So he kinda had to forgive Tony for the rest of it.

Tony still is keeping Rhodes sandwiched in the middle of his arms race with the world at large and himself. That's what's most baffling about this movie; nothing really got solved despite Vanko pretty much proving his point. It would've made more sense for Rhodes to forgive Tony about acting the ass but still resentful about him hiding technology from the government, like Tony was at the beginning of the movie and continues on planning to do.

Same thing for Pepper. Yes, he might have gotten away with being an ass because of his situation, but the fact of the matter is that he didn't really change. There's no indication that Tony Stark has become more sensitive or straightforward at the end of his movie. And while that's still sort of his charm, being a dick, the movie shouldn't have just swept those things underneath the rug like nothing happened--that should've been an issue going into the next adventure, which there probably will be. Wrapping up character development only makes sense if you're done with the character or you're going to put them on autopilot for awhile; but Iron Man is going to appear again and his situation and personally (especially the alcoholism) is too volatile to just be left alone.

[Cynic]

Just saw X-men origins:wolverine.

It was entertaining enough eyecandy but there was so much that seemed like it was just put in there as comic-book fanservice.

half of it didn't even make sense.

Apparently being shot in the head leads to specific memory loss... ~_~

[Maxus]

Apparently being shot in the head leads to specific memory loss... ~_~

Hey, maybe that'll stop insane people from hearing voices! Nail them where they live!

But X-men has always taken the headshot thing a little crazy. When Deadpool gets on his nerves sometimes, Cable will sometimes telekinetically explode Deadpool's head, just to get a couple of hours of peace while Deadpool's head reforms.

[Prak]

2) he thought he was dying, which make point 1 even stronger and makes acting like a complete ass actually forgivable. If a friend of yours starting acting like a jerk and then you found out they had cancer, the response isn't "stop being an ass" it's "oh my god, what can I do to help?". And when you find out they'll live, you are too happy to be pissed about it.

eh, not really... I don't know about anyone else, but my reaction is more of a good natured, brit-mannerism referencing "well there's no reason to be such dick about it. to me." and then ask what I can do for them.

3) chicks quite routinely dig assholes. This isn't news.

I'm still trying to figure out why I'm not neck deep in pussy given this fact. There's some kind of flaw in the proof...

as for Wolverine... it wasn't all that good of eyecandy... the claws routinely looked like circa 1995 cgi, and especially in the bathroom scene...

[Count Arioch the 28th]

3) chicks quite routinely dig assholes. This isn't news.

I'm still trying to figure out why I'm not neck deep in pussy given this fact. There's some kind of flaw in the proof...

I would say your approach is incorrect. Try something else.

[virgil]

Now, normally I loved Fables and its material. There was the general annoyance from the fact their voices tend to be the same and every protagonist likes to beat over peoples' heads just how awesome/powerful they are, be it social status or actual ability; seeing it or even having a narrator works better than having Cinderella monologue at a goon.

But I still liked the rest of it, until the Literals came into play. I tried to like Jack of Fables, but I couldn't get over how stupid it was to expand the premise of "what if your fairy tales were real and had lives outside the story" and into "what if the act of anthropomorphizing, the fourth wall, and the western genre itself, were all people".

[Lago PARANOIA]

What's up with the current trend of giving long-beloved superheroes bastard kids?

Did we really need to see Superman and Indiana Jones turned into offscreen deadbeat dads? Who could have possibly thought that this would be entertaining or well-received?

[virgil]

So that way they can still act like the heroes we've always seen them act on-screen, yet at the same time create a kid-version of the hero to draw in that kid demographic? That's the only reason I could think of it.

The whole need to have a kid version to identify with really confuses me at times, even when I was a kid; I watched Thundercats for the adults and could live without the snarf, Batman was fine/great without Robin around, the Muppet Show was awesome and it didn't have any kids, while Orko was cool he wasn't why I watched He-Man, etc. I never needed a version of me to identify with as a role model.

[Lago PARANOIA]

So that way they can still act like the heroes we've always seen them act on-screen,

Being a fucking deadbeat dad completely wrecks their image in the first place, so why the trouble to preserve the hero's image if you're just going to ruin it in the first place?

It's the same sort of logic that gave us MAKING A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO ABORT YOUR BABY. OH GOD NOOOOOO

[PoliteNewb]

Just saw X-men origins:wolverine.

It was entertaining enough eyecandy but there was so much that seemed like it was just put in there as comic-book fanservice.

half of it didn't even make sense.

Half? Hell, most of that movie didn't make sense.

I basically hated it after the first 20 minutes. Quick recap:

1.) Turn Deadpool from "the merc with a mouth" to "the zombie horror without a mouth". Oh, and blades that sprout from...nowhere? How the fuck did he bend his arms with those things retracted?

2.) Whitewash Kayla. Also kill her. Because that's good dramatic tension.

3.) Make Gambit even MORE annoying than he is in the comics.

4.) Throw in every possible mutant the fans might have heard of, and that you think you can get away with.

That isn't a recipe for success. It's a shit sandwich.