Annoying Game Questions You Want Answered

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:10 am

Exactly how broken is the feral template?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:25 am

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:28 am

What about with a druid with the (seeming complete nerf) Shapeshift ACF from PHB2?

Edit: The Feral Template mentions "Monstrous HD," seeming to mean racial HD (or possibly Monstrous Humanoid HD). A Feral, say, Elf, wouldn't have any racial HD, and thus wouldn't get any specials from the template. Is this a correct reading?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:57 am

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:01 am

It does, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something. Given that this is a player who is usually a bit more of an optimizer, I'm ok with this, as he is, intentionally or no, handicapping himself.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:04 am

For Barbarian type characters it is worth taking at all, assuming the game starts at level 4-5 so you already have enough hit dice that the level loss doesn't outright kill you. It basically takes your Orc Barbarian and adds a multiplier to "being an Orc Barbarian". Because that's all it is. MORE OF THAT. You lose even more Int, and gain even more Str and Con, and get natural weapons you probably won't use*, Fast Healing, Natural Armour and Pounce.

For any other character, you wouldn't want to do that. But for that one type, it's worth the pay-off (as long as you don't instantly die at class level 1, party level 2). Which is better than most Templates give you.

*You could make a case for using them if you can magically enhance them. Presumably if you coat them in Adamantium ala Wolverine, they would count as Masterwork so could be enhanced. But even then, only if the MC rules that class levels still advance your Rake and Rend.

Longes · Post by **Longes** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:35 am

How does Planar Binding work in Pathfinder?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:03 am

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:20 am

Dude, never kill the Nightmare, when it is dead it can give you free Astral Projection.

You should be Astral Projecting.

ishy · Post by **ishy** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:24 am

Kaelik wrote:Dude, never kill the Nightmare, when it is dead it can give you free Astral Projection.

You should be Astral Projecting.

In PF Nightmares no longer have Astral Projection.

In ultimate Magic they actually wasted some space on binding: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ulti ... iders.html

Longes · Post by **Longes** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:36 am

Hm. I guess I shouldn't have left my Void cleric's charisma at 10...

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:40 am

Longes · Post by **Longes** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:45 am

ubernoob wrote:
Longes wrote:Hm. I guess I shouldn't have left my Void cleric's charisma at 10...
Really doesn't matter. Just throw some bestow curses on that fucker. -6 to charisma, -4 to attack rolls, saves, ability checks, and skill checks shifts the RNG 7 points in your favor. That's before throwing down status conditions like shaken/negative levels/etc.

So what you are saying is, while I chant eldritch incantations, my pet bard should dance Thriller at the beastie? While fighter juggles greatswords intimidatingly?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:55 am

Longes · Post by **Longes** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:58 pm

I've also managed to convince the MC to allow me (a cleric of Groetus) to take Wisdom of the Flesh trait, which makes Stealth my class skill dependant on Wisdom.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:26 am

SRD Etheral Filcher wrote:Ethereal Jaunt (Su)

An ethereal filcher can shift from the Ethereal Plane to the Material Plane as part of any move action, and shift back again as a free action. It can remain on the Ethereal Plane for 1 round before returning to the Material Plane. The ability is otherwise identical with the ethereal jaunt spell (caster level 15th).

Is it just me, or were Etheral Filchers clearly meant to have Blink? I'd also give them Plane Shift at will (self only, Material<->Etheral only, 1 minute casting time).

Are there any actual consequences to swapping customized Etheral Jaunt for standard Blink that I'm missing?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:34 am

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:45 am

So they should have Blink with "For each 5 feet of solid material they walk through past 20', there is a 50% chance that they become material."

That still seems to be a less major change than "this version of etheral jaunt lasts 1 round."

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:02 am

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:08 am

It's just so weird to make a function call to a spell with a duration of 1 rnd/CL, say it's at CL 15, and then say "but they can only be there for one round"

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:16 am

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:23 am

Well, along this theme: how the hell does this "1 round etheral jaunt" affect spot checks to see the thing?

ubernoob · Post by **ubernoob** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:25 am

Schleiermacher · Post by **Schleiermacher** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:42 pm

If you make the swashbuckler and martial artist the same class (Lightly-armored acrobatic combatant who practices increasingly ridiculous and supernatural combat styles), what would you call that class? Anything I can think of either connotes one but not the other (kensei) or a bad fit after level 4 or so (bravo) or both (duelist).

fectin · Post by **fectin** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:26 pm

Luchadore.