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http://www.white-wolf.com/pimp/index.php

I can't believe that I actually saw this on their website.

You earholes.

From the website:

"Now you can experience the dizzying highs and soul-bending lows of exploiting women, pushing drugs and dodging undercover cops."

And a quote from a White Wolf Game Studio guy:

"...All the bitches we slapped during playtest not only greatly enjoyed their comp copies, but actually purchased additional copies of this game at full MSRP.

Regards,
Justin"



...



*sigh*


Apparently they decided it's the time to throw their good taste down the drain.
I perfectly know that RPG involve killing, doing evil, cause suffering. Some enjoy RPGs just to wreak their worst instincts. However, most of RPG and CCG are not entirely focused on this shit.

Though fictional, this CCG makes me feel...uncomfortable at best. OK, you are not smacking real prostitutes. That doesn't make me feel better. They say: "don't take it too seriously". OK. But I don't like 'jokes' which are in fact mockeries of real victims.

That stuff doesn't deserve so much hype. Just let 'em drown in their misery. If someone likes it, he is free to waste his money on the game and play it.

Speechless.

It disturbs me that there is apparently a market for a game like that.

Murtak at [unixtime wrote:1116786465[/unixtime]]
It disturbs me that there is apparently a market for a game like that.

Frat-boy freshman gamer geeks? Ya, pretty creepy...

Actually, I'm surprised that anyone is offended by this. The website and the game say over and over again that it's a joke. Seriously, anyone who watches Scrubs and never complains about the lack of respect they have for the horrors that occur in our nation's hospitals every day, or anyone who has ever seen Cheech and Chong and not been aghast at the total ignorance of the brutality and violence that pervades the world of drug cartels, drug runners, and drug dealers, or anyone who has ever played a bard for more than one session at a time -- none of them should even lift an eyebrow at Pimp: the Backhanding. It's a fucking joke, and if the game is fun to play, it shouldn't have it's flavor text held against it.

Actually, I'm surprised that anyone is offended by this. The website and the game say over and over again that it's a joke. Seriously, anyone who watches Scrubs and never complains about the lack of respect they have for the horrors that occur in our nation's hospitals every day, or anyone who has ever seen Cheech and Chong and not been aghast at the total ignorance of the brutality and violence that pervades the world of drug cartels, drug runners, and drug dealers, or anyone who has ever played a bard for more than one session at a time -- none of them should even lift an eyebrow at Pimp: the Backhanding. It's a fvcking joke, and if the game is fun to play, it shouldn't have it's flavor text held against it.

I still reserve the right to make fun of and mock and laugh at the company for its total lack of dignity and class, because they had to resort to Jackass-style humor in a vain attempt to make a buck.

Because that's the kind of person I am. If Disney produced and bankrolled Lolita 2, despite the purely capitalist or artistic aims of this questionable production, I am still going to sneer at them and call them deviants.

Because I am way cooler than Whitewolf.

I have to agree.

This is just a crappy Lunch Money derivative without half the snarky creativeness of Freebase.

Essence at [unixtime wrote:1116810642[/unixtime]]Actually, I'm surprised that anyone is offended by this. The website and the game say over and over again that it's a joke. Seriously, anyone who watches Scrubs and never complains about the lack of respect they have for the horrors that occur in our nation's hospitals every day, or anyone who has ever seen Cheech and Chong and not been aghast at the total ignorance of the brutality and violence that pervades the world of drug cartels, drug runners, and drug dealers, or anyone who has ever played a bard for more than one session at a time -- none of them should even lift an eyebrow at Pimp: the Backhanding. It's a fvcking joke, and if the game is fun to play, it shouldn't have it's flavor text held against it.

So if this pimp game becomes successful, perhaps you'd feel the same way if the follow-up game was named "Slave: the Subjugation" ??

Where you the player are a cotton plantation owner circa 1842 and its your job to control, abuse, and maximize the output of your contingent of [EDITED] thralls. Same type of classless and deviant humor, right?

All the focus is on the coolness factor of being a pimp, which youths in modern pop culture seemingly like to jabber about with a rather cavalier attitude. And little focus seems to be placed on the victims of pimps who via terror, violence, and humilation, often have their lives totally ruined. Or worse, end up dead without dignity.

The game itself drives home a little too close a dose of real life modern America for me. I live in a neighborhood where pimps and their thralled prostitutes are arrested on a daily basis. In addition, they end up in morgues and hospitals on a way too frequent basis.

Do we really need a packaged "game" that mocks this and completely zones in on this social cancer in such a nonchalant manner? No. Cartoons and comics that focus on this issue is fine as a form of expression, tragic humor, information, or what have you. But when a fairly reputable game company publishes a game where you playfully and mindlessly assume the role of a traditional pimp - that's just exacerbating the problem and diminishing the severity of its social ills.

Totally rediculous.

Lago wrote:If Disney produced and bankrolled Lolita 2, ...blah blah..., I am still going to sneer at them and call them deviants.

Hey, whats with the sudden Kubrick slur?

I haven't even watched the entire film and I knows it ain't what you seem suggest it is.

Why do the ART films always get the the boot put in at every excuse. They've started banning new art films in the order of Lolita in my country lately, while blasted Law and Order SVU is screened multiple nights a week on free to air television despite being blatantly illegal in its content according to our broadcasting act thingy.

Use the excuse to put the foot in where its richly deserved, like Law and Order SVU.

In other news, yeah the pimp card game is totally stupid.

Perhaps again because putting the boot in on the most disadvantaged sex workers is another case of victimising the wrong target.

EDIT: I just had to reword the last line, it just didn't look right.

I thought it was funny.

Guest (Unregistered) at [unixtime wrote:1116817222[/unixtime]]
Where you the player are a cotton plantation owner circa 1842 and its your job to control, abuse, and maximize the output of your contingent of [EDITED] thralls. Same type of classless and deviant humor, right?

No no no. Opressing black people is wrong no matter how you slice it. Slapping around women is as natural as bobbing for apples.

Count_Arioch_the_28th at [unixtime wrote:1116856951[/unixtime]]

Guest (Unregistered) at [unixtime wrote:1116817222[/unixtime]]
Where you the player are a cotton plantation owner circa 1842 and its your job to control, abuse, and maximize the output of your contingent of [EDITED] thralls. Same type of classless and deviant humor, right?

No no no. Opressing black people is wrong no matter how you slice it. Slapping around women is as natural as bobbing for apples.

Ah, I see. You mean women like this one?
Mod Edit: Image deleted at the request of the photographee

ESPECIALLY her, Mr. "I'm going to do some research on Count Arioch in an attempt to rattle him".

So if this pimp game becomes successful, perhaps you'd feel the same way if the follow-up game was named "Slave: the Subjugation" ??

As long as didn't take itself seriously and expected it's players to not take it seriously -- and it's funny -- I don't care if the game is called "Hatred: the Curb-Stomping", "Rapist: the Boning", or "Hitler: the Purging".

I realize that these issues are very disturbing to people. I realize that many people are totally uncomfortable being exposed to even the mention of these kinds of events. But I am also aware that the intent of the game is not to glorify pimping, but to make fun of the ignorant assholes who *do*, and to try to point a finger at how stupid it is to think that beating women is "cool".

Bran, I would appreciate it if you would edit my picture out of your post. There are reasons I don't usually post my pictures anywhere, and thats one of them.

Although that was a good reply, even if Count was just kidding around

(He doesnt hit me, I would kick him in the balls if he did)

PhoneLobster at [unixtime wrote:1116847775[/unixtime]]

Lago wrote:If Disney produced and bankrolled Lolita 2, ...blah blah..., I am still going to sneer at them and call them deviants.

Hey, whats with the sudden Kubrick slur?

I haven't even watched the entire film and I knows it ain't what you seem suggest it is.

Why do the ART films always get the the boot put in at every excuse. They've started banning new art films in the order of Lolita in my country lately, while blasted Law and Order SVU is screened multiple nights a week on free to air television despite being blatantly illegal in its content according to our broadcasting act thingy.

The Kubrick version of Lolita was horrible. It totally ignored the tone of the book (which despite the subject matter was wonderfully written). After seeing how he butchered that book I lost a lot of respect for Kubrick.

Alansmithee wrote:The Kubrick version of Lolita was horrible.

I didn't say it was good. But it isn't exactly a highly explicit romp into the realms of deviant erotica either.

And it annoys me to see art films bear the brunt of that critism while big money TV series get off scott free with far worse.

BWAHAHAHAHA, this is excellent. I'm buying some of these cards for a friend's birthday coming up. No, I'm not joking, I think they're awesome.

If we're going to be living under a conservative regime, might as well lay on the mysoginy thick while its tolerated. (OK, now I'm joking)

PhoneLobster wrote: They've started banning new art films in the order of Lolita in my country lately, while blasted Law and Order SVU is screened multiple nights a week on free to air television despite being blatantly illegal in its content according to our broadcasting act thingy.

That's because even the American Taliban knows not to mess with Ice-T.