Gaming Den favicon?
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Gaming Den favicon?
Is there any reason why the Den doesn't have a favicon?
I never really thought about it myself, as I don't favortire anything here, i can just find it when I type www.tgdmb.com to get here.
I can only offer some speculation myself:
Nobody made one.
Nobody decided on one they liked.
Thee wasn't time to make one yet.
Those are examples on the administrative side of its importance, that may or may not be the case, and if consideration was made then it could actually be dealing with cost/functionality such as:
At 1k each page view will load icon. While this isn't much a problem for a user visiting, even that 1k would be sent to crawlers that look up website if robots are allowed to crawl the site. After an hour of crawling that could cut into the allowed bandwidth on the server and cause downtime. Likewise the extra graphics would make pages load slower, and this version of phpBB can be wonky when a page doesn't load up right away because an image got stuck trying to find and load. The icon may not be located in the TGD php directories and also give other info about the server that is not wanted aside from the potential for php/SQL errors arising from waiting for it to be accessed.
My best guess, would be it wasn't even thought about. But now I am curious as to what the design of the icon for TGD would be since you brought it up. Maybe fbmf's avatar?
I can only offer some speculation myself:
Nobody made one.
Nobody decided on one they liked.
Thee wasn't time to make one yet.
Those are examples on the administrative side of its importance, that may or may not be the case, and if consideration was made then it could actually be dealing with cost/functionality such as:
At 1k each page view will load icon. While this isn't much a problem for a user visiting, even that 1k would be sent to crawlers that look up website if robots are allowed to crawl the site. After an hour of crawling that could cut into the allowed bandwidth on the server and cause downtime. Likewise the extra graphics would make pages load slower, and this version of phpBB can be wonky when a page doesn't load up right away because an image got stuck trying to find and load. The icon may not be located in the TGD php directories and also give other info about the server that is not wanted aside from the potential for php/SQL errors arising from waiting for it to be accessed.
My best guess, would be it wasn't even thought about. But now I am curious as to what the design of the icon for TGD would be since you brought it up. Maybe fbmf's avatar?
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Sadly yes.Murtak wrote:Are there any browsers or crawlers that ignore cache settings?shadzar wrote:At 1k each page view will load icon.
Even providing something to tell a crawler to skip any part or the whole of a site, they are not forced to obey.
Bypasing things like nofollow, no-cache, etc are not a problem for crawlers that were not built to include those instructions so they just ignore robots.txt and any other "rel". Some are even built to just go download a page an archive the meta tags.
web.archive.org for a while did not obey robots.txt and cached all sites it found (it was instructed to go to by submissions), as well did Google.
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Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.
Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.
Of course they don't have to. Heck, I can fire up a one-liner and hammer the den non-stop. But is there a meaningful percentage of crawlers or browsers that are dumb enough to actually download the same image over and over again? Does any major crawler do this? Do Firefox, Opera, Safari or IE?
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I know it came up on Nifty because I made that one. And I know that Opera will reload images over and over again - but only if you tell it to.
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No. Firefox, Opera, Safari, IE, and Chrome all cache the favicon for a long, long time.Murtak wrote:Of course they don't have to. Heck, I can fire up a one-liner and hammer the den non-stop. But is there a meaningful percentage of crawlers or browsers that are dumb enough to actually download the same image over and over again? Does any major crawler do this? Do Firefox, Opera, Safari or IE?
I know this from when I changed my wiki's favicon.
Well a browser CAN be set to cache or not to cache any part of a website, including the favorite icon. IE and Mozilla both have settings that will either not cache anything, ot dump the cache on closing.Murtak wrote:Of course they don't have to. Heck, I can fire up a one-liner and hammer the den non-stop. But is there a meaningful percentage of crawlers or browsers that are dumb enough to actually download the same image over and over again? Does any major crawler do this? Do Firefox, Opera, Safari or IE?
crawlers and spiders on the other hand will try to get everything on every page. Not everyone would care about TGD, or any other website and how much band width is wasted by them crawling. It is like a DDOS attack, but where you just eat up all the bandwidth slowly rathat than prevent connection through full port and the website is out of bandwidth or gets hit with some large fee in order to remain open and operational.
The question is whether TGD or any specific site would be a target, such as the worry with pr0n-bots and anything else.
As it seems, Z is ready willing and able to install any fav-icon with the approval of fbmf, so the rest now seems moot, as Z does not see it as a problem here, and it is (and was) up to fbmf as to what to do anyway.
But I did enjoy the side discussion about it in general.
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Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.
Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.
I'd also be willing to upload a banner, if somebody were to create one. It would need to match the forum and be no larger than, hmmm... let's say 450x150. I know that size will fit without disruption since it's what we use on Nifty. (The phpbb banner that appears now is 200×91.) And, of course, fbmf would have final say on whether it went up or not.
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Silly question...should the banner go ahead now, or wait to see if you convert to phpbb3?
Play the game, not the rules.
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Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.
Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2197/romand20.jpg
A roman icosahedron used for some kind of unknown game.
Alternatively,
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9369/icosahedron.png
A basic icosahedron.
A roman icosahedron used for some kind of unknown game.
Alternatively,
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9369/icosahedron.png
A basic icosahedron.
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I'm fond of the Roman one, though I'd say moving it away from being sexed up and into simplicity would be better. Up the contrast between the object and the background, but keep the background simple, so it doesn't distract from the object itself.
Actually, the basic icosahedron works a lot better as far as simplicity goes, but the Roman icosahedron just looks really cool.
Actually, the basic icosahedron works a lot better as far as simplicity goes, but the Roman icosahedron just looks really cool.
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I think it looks good, mean liar, though for some reason the color strikes me as a bit too blue. But it's cool.
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