The Deck-Building RPG

...You Lost Me · Post by **...You Lost Me** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:03 am

So the genesis kickstarter just happened. From the previews they're giving the game is going to like 4e but campier and CCG-style. Any thoughts bouncing around here?

Also, is the premise of a deck-based RPG even economically feasible?

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:32 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasy_S ... Revolution

Yes, it's viable for an RPG... sorta. It'll either be very abstract or combat is a thing you do separate from in-game-story-stuff.

Though I already have a lot of fun playing M:tG 'Vorthos' style

I got a theme deck of every color. I don't like things that break theme or feel 'not propa'

JigokuBosatsu · Post by **JigokuBosatsu** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:12 pm

I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:01 pm

I thought that WORRA already existed.

-Username17

...You Lost Me · Post by **...You Lost Me** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:25 pm

I don't understand what that picture represents.

Surgo · Post by **Surgo** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:28 pm

You don't notice how the guy is, y'know, building a deck?

...You Lost Me · Post by **...You Lost Me** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:34 pm

Oh wow. I am dumb.

Starmaker · Post by **Starmaker** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:39 pm

FrankTrollman wrote:I thought that WORRA already existed.

-Username17

WORRA is a pay-to-win CCG, with randomized booster packs and shit. Genesis is apparently not.

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:35 am

There's already a game like this - Thunderstone.

...You Lost Me · Post by **...You Lost Me** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:16 am

Thunderstone is where you have a bunch of heroes and you're competing to raid a dungeon. This is one hero with powers.

Zinegata · Post by **Zinegata** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:19 am

...You Lost Me wrote:Thunderstone is where you have a bunch of heroes and you're competing to raid a dungeon. This is one hero with powers.

You could actually make an all-spell deck in Thunderstone without heroes (they can be cast without a hero), and I've always thought of the heroes as more of hirelings accompanying the player into the dungeon anyway.

I really don't see anything particularly novel or new about this game yet. On further review it has shades of the new Mage Knight boardgame, but that was a really bad game that is way overrated.

OgreBattle · Post by **OgreBattle** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:59 pm

these games your talking about, thunderstone and such, are the rules free pdf downloads? I'd like to check them out

(the D&D boardgame rules are all available on wotc website)

...You Lost Me · Post by **...You Lost Me** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:21 pm

Thunderstone has a facebook app, that teaches you the rules well enough and will shuffle your deck progressively worse so that you fail in combats all the time and are incentivized to go buy the game.

Dunno about Worra.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:50 am

Worra is incredibly slow. You roll to-hit and then you roll damage and then subtract enemy DR. You seem to only actually inflict any damage like half the time. Meanwhile, both players can heal themselves for more than attacks actually inflict in addition to swinging their sword each turn. Actual victories only happen when both players have been decked and whoever has set themselves up with a better set of equipment for steady state grinding does that.

Also: it has a six copy limit for cards and decks are made out of multiple largely identical cards. So you need to get a lot of cards before you can make a deck that isn't completely ass.

There are some interesting ideas there, but I don't think Worra is the right direction to go for anything.

-Username17

zeruslord · Post by **zeruslord** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:04 am

It looks like Genesis is using cards as their resolution mechanic and RNG, not as representations for spells/abilities/items. They've got some clever ideas for tying wounds and XP into their core mechanic, but the whole thing might be too gimmicky in actual play. Also, depending on how the deck creation and expansion works, I can see problems with running out of cards among the group as a whole.