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It's really not germane to the discussion so I'll just make one final comment: the Wiz 15 has access to much better divination spells and more spell slots per day. Therefore he is more likely to know that the 20 Wiz 5s are coming for him and to be properly prepared than the 20 Wiz 5s are to know th...

Don't be a whiny baby, there was exactly no venom directed at you, so who cares if he directs venom at a shitty class and a shitty tier system? To be fair, he never claimed that the venom was directed at him, he just said he was surprised at the venom involved period. Still, I don't know what he wa...

Mister_Sinister wrote:(Long post)

...Okay, that's why I regretted asking. Wow. I get the point, I guess. I'm just suprised at the SHEER VENOM involved in a response to me asking a question.

Magus sucks cocks in hell. Don't bother with it. ...I'm going to regret asking this. It's not the best class for the high end, but as far as I can tell it's roughly competitive with the Duskblade from 3.5e (only with a less ludicrously limited spell list than the Duskblade.) As far as I can tell, i...

Actually, you didn't get the full insanity of the Magic Tea Party saves on display: For example the big monster is grappling you, you might use dexterity to save and get out. But you can also have some other ways of getting out that grapple. Maybe there's a gem on that creature's head and you can ma...

Seerow wrote:Bruce: If the fighter is 100% damage for example, then maybe this other class is 80% damage/combat and 20% exploration, or some other mix of game elements.

...I have to ask. Does this make the Barbarian 120% damage, -20% literacy?

Ardent, seriously? Psionics give me the heebie-jeebies, and anything that you're calling out for its repetitiveness in a 4E game does not fill me with anticipation. What's the cheese that makes that class work? I suppose it need not be Warlord. I sort of don't want to mess around with Cleric just b...

I mean, to get the idea of how badly they understand math, look at 4e pre expertise feats (an annoying band-aid), or the infamous 3.0e Drizzt build they put out I looked at and figured, sans his HD and BAB, I could easily take him with a LV 4 Kobold Fighter 2/Rogue 2 I was playing at the time.

We're talking here about a company that released a monster builder tool today that can't build monsters (it can only rename attacks and change their level). Trolling is probably not out of the question.

I really think WotC has gotten boned by doing all these surveys. They honestly don't seem to understand how math or science works, and it shows Speaking of which, and I've been wondering this for a while, for a genre depending on a lot of dice rolling and numbers, why are there almost no if any pub...

About 25% of voters were perfectly happy sacrificing options for complexity. Mind you, this is after this troll post http://wizards.com/dnd/article.aspx?x=dnd/4ll/20110308 where he makes numbers up to get the results he wants (seriously, it's completely arbitrary what he declares a step.) http://wi...

SO?? Do you cry if you used Mass Cure Major Wounds on an earlier encounter in a Vancian system and an encounter where it'd be even more useful comes up? Do you ragequit if you roll minimum dice on the random cure roll, which leads to you barely getting killed next round anyway? Are you going to thr...

Not so much trying to troll as having come past here due to google searches turning up some of the more awesome threads including the "Anatomy of Failed Design" and tome threads, lurked for a while (I'll admit it's hard to tell the difference between a relatively long term lurker delurking...

Okay, I'm just going to say this: this is the least marketable system I have ever seen. Seriously, who is going to come to a game (barring a few game design people) attracted by the idea of having your actions in a round found by rolling on a table? Also - if you think you've seen people start yelli...

The straw that dumped the system in our case was when we realized the rules demand everyone act every initiative round - demanding that the Barbarian who dumped Charisma contribute to the social interactions going on. Yeah, we stopped that pretty quick. That was before I got a copy of the DMG and re...

But really I expect to see stuff like "5E dropped the perfectly perfect Skill Challenges Mechanics everyone loved????!!!?!! RAGE!!!!" from the 4E fans. Okay, even among 4e fans, is there ANYONE who thinks Skill Challenges work? The DM of the 4e game I'm in (it's the first and longest runn...

One of the complaints I saw holding a lot of traction with the Fan Boys was that they thought the item rarity rules were stupid and they refused to use them PRIMARILY because they were really very incomplete. The vast majority of junk was poorly or unclassified and needed manual sorting/house rulin...

JigokuBosatsu wrote:

gourdcaptain wrote: I kinda got into Tabletop RPGs with 4e

I feel like an old motherfucker now.

If it's any consolation, I didn't get into Tabletop RPGs until college last year.

Also, throw in the gigantic mess that is the Item Rarity system as implemented, and it gets ugly. The package system it replaced may not have been that good, but at least it could theoretically be used, and wasn't nearly as lazy. Plus, random rolling to determine drops? SERIOUSLY. Yeah I never like...

Do they also have it that the Named NPC's signature weapon only has a 1 in 17 chance of dropping the first time you run the adventure? And I think they need to add a token system, so that the more times your character does the same module, the more chances you have of getting the loot you're lookin...

It's sad because essentials was actually a decent product, but the marketing of it was terrible. They probably plan to lay low a while before either releasing 5E or selling the D&D brand to some other publisher. Whether Heroes of Shadow will get scrapped entirely or release as a half-finished p...