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It's also nice to know that the big survival mechanic of Vampires minimizing gunfire by treating it as bashing is basically out the window because any fucking punk can go out and get some kevlar and treat gunshots like vampires do. In the original nWoD core already, a Kevlar vest inflicted a -2 pen...

Note: none of that fucking helps at all. Armor and Weapons shift actual damage boxes around instead of adding and subtract dice, so they are both about three times as big. Weapons are still a fuck of a lot easier to get than armor and considerably larger, so that's a net bonus to the attacker over ...

In the meantime post the fucking numbers, because I swear there was something about armour being nothing compared to the damage increases earlier in the thread. Some of the sample weapons add more successes to damage than the typical armor examples subtract, but that requires hitting the target fir...

Out of curiosity... don't know if this is a thing in NWoD, but what do you think a shotgun enchanted to float around you and fire on your command should do to your initiative? If it flies around independently without any kind of other material components like magic wands or remote controllers? Noth...

You're telling me that drawing from a concealed holster, say in the small of your back, is totally doable, but readying your weapon from the above pose is unreasonable? No, what I'm saying is that keeping your weapon ready in that position shouldn't prevent the Initiative penalty at all, because it...

It's a reflexive action, and you can take that reflexive action any time Defense applies. So either I can reflexively draw/holster infinite times off camera when it's not my turn or the ST tells me to shut up and wait my turn. That's the interpretation I disagree with. If the GM happens to be in a ...

So you're admitting that quick draw is fucking useless and a waste of points. Either that or you're gently implying that you can use it before someone shoots you. Which was exactly the opposite of what you originally were arguing. Either way, your initial argument was actually wrong. This conversat...

3.My Initiative+Firearms is penalized by the weapon penalty, but Shoot First requires Firearms 2 so I'm not knocked below my normal Initiative. Even with Shoot First, though, Firearms 2 wouldn't be enough to cancel out entirely the Initiative penalty from wielding a heavy firearm: you'd need at lea...

You also completely avoided the description of the slinged shotgun. The same rule applies to both holstering and slinging weapons: by the book, that's an instant action. Even if that's arguably meant for, say, hoisting a rifle on your back instead of using more specialized combat gear, I'd neverthe...

So it's been a while since I remember this, but if defense doesn't apply to bullet attacks (only armor, which is different from your defense), does that mean quick draw is useless when you're shot at? Defense doesn't apply against firearms, yes, except possibly at very close range. Going by that, Q...

This fight is one-sided, but not in the way you might think. You get to choose whether you wish to apply Defense, so there's little point in wasting it on attacks that most likely couldn't cause serious injuries anyway. That part hasn't changed much since the original WoD core: being outnumbered wa...

In what way is that a functional rule? Quick Draw or Defense in general? The most logical reading of the Merit would simply be that it makes the usually instant drawing or holstering action reflexive instead, and additionally allows performing the same out of turn whenever the character's Defense a...

For the record: "defense applies" in pretty much exactly the same circumstances that you get your dex bonus in D&D. Which is not terribly surprising, because it is essentially the same concept. Unarmed Combat: Strength + Brawl; Defense applies Melee Combat: Strength + Weaponry; Defens...

Yann, you know that "when your defense applies" is a game term that means you are free to act and not surprised, right? It doesn't mean you are literally rolling applying your defense as a dice pool penalty to other people at the moment. "Defense applies" to specific actions, no...

Your character can draw a pistol and fire or pull a melee weapon and attack without penalty as a single action in a turn. If a weapon is hidden on your character's person (under a coat or in a purse), it can be drawn and used in the same turn without the normal loss of Defense. It makes you not suf...

So quickdraw isn't actually quickdraw unless you get attacked. And then you get your choice of defense/attacking/doing something or drawing your weapon. No, Quick Draw just gives you the opportunity to get your weapon out or set it aside without delay as a reflexive reaction to an attack, so that y...

So you go on init count 8, draw for free, which drops your init to 6 next round, fire, then drop/sling/holster your weapon as a free instant action, which boosts your init back up to 8. But that's not possible unless the GM is at least implementing some rules hacks. Without Merits like Quick Draw, ...

Then they give initiative penalties for holding a weapon in your hand. They know Quickdraw is an actual thing, right? That characters drawing and sheathing weapons every attack in order to go faster is extremely stupid , and yet is almost 100% of what that rule does. Eh, I'm not really seeing how r...

It's the one nWoD line I've been looking forward to since Changeling (which in turn was the only line I was interested in before), even though the demons in question don't really bear much of a resemblance to the Second Children from the original "Voice of the Angel" vignette. Note, by the...

And the game I heard about is this one here, I think: http://www.burgergames.com/stalker/EN_web/ That one's based on the Strugatsky novel and the Tarkovsky film. (I have the original Finnish edition.) It doesn't present any objective truth behind the Visitation that took place thirteen years ago, o...

Really, I think Changelings are supposed to act for the same reasons all WoD characters do - investigate mysteries, fight the evil monsters in the closets, run from bigger evil monsters. Either someone gives you a quest, or you do it just because "Why not, I have time to kill". You know, ...

Naturally Changeling would never address how to become human. All the way back to the original Vampire there was Golconda and becoming human again, and they only gave *very* vague ideas of how you reach Golconda. That's supposed to be "up to the storyteller". And you still don't really an...

Almost as much as Promethean, the game is attempting to get you to strive towards... not being a character in the game. You're a Changeling, and the goal is to build up enough Clarity that you stop being one. And that's a really bad goal for a role playing game. You could stop being a Changeling ju...